normanml
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On a WIN98SE machine I could not get the CD to read disks I made on an XP Pro machine. Thought it was buring speed. Then I tested the W98SE with a brand new BLANK disk and still got "access denied." Does this have anything to do with the sync data box in properties or the DMA box?
Ray. You have the right idea.
I you can read OEM or cd roms with data,then the disk as mentioned may be blank. I have run into this and now I label each disc and make a print out of it's contents.
gonzal13(Joe)
I you can read OEM or cd roms with data,then the disk as mentioned may be blank. I have run into this and now I label each disc and make a print out of it's contents.
gonzal13(Joe)
If you burned the files using a drag and drop utility, you may need that package installed to read the disk.
(nero incd is an example)
If the cd is a CDRW, this could be part of the problem as well.
Other than the above test the drive as suggested by rayt333
(nero incd is an example)
If the cd is a CDRW, this could be part of the problem as well.
Other than the above test the drive as suggested by rayt333
Hi norman
Have you formatted the CD to UDF standard? If so check these out
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321640
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBK/tip5300/rh5381.htm
Michael
Have you formatted the CD to UDF standard? If so check these out
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321640
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBK/tip5300/rh5381.htm
Michael
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Ray writes
>>A regular CD-Rom will not read a "blank" CD
Did you try a factory CD to see if it could be read?
If it can't read a factory CD then likely the CD-Rom is bad or the lens is dirty. (or maybe a bad IDE cable or controller)<<
The device works fine with all factory (program/app) disks. Just installed a Lotus program, no problem. So it can read commerical (pre-recorded) disks fine, and plays music without a problem. It's not the device itself, then. And I am NOT formatting the Imation CD-R's. As I said, I used XP Pro's native copy to copy a small data file at 1X speed and when I put that disk in the W98 machine I got an "access denied." Same thing happened when I put in a new CD-R blank out of the box.
>>A regular CD-Rom will not read a "blank" CD
Did you try a factory CD to see if it could be read?
If it can't read a factory CD then likely the CD-Rom is bad or the lens is dirty. (or maybe a bad IDE cable or controller)<<
The device works fine with all factory (program/app) disks. Just installed a Lotus program, no problem. So it can read commerical (pre-recorded) disks fine, and plays music without a problem. It's not the device itself, then. And I am NOT formatting the Imation CD-R's. As I said, I used XP Pro's native copy to copy a small data file at 1X speed and when I put that disk in the W98 machine I got an "access denied." Same thing happened when I put in a new CD-R blank out of the box.
"Then I tested the W98SE with a brand new BLANK disk and still got "access denied." Does this have anything to do with the sync data box in properties or the DMA box?"
No it does not. Windows 98 needs special software to write data to CD-R/RW disc. Such software is needed, to acess disk writen by windows XP built in UDF capability.
Windows 98 can not see by itself unrecorded disks also.
No it does not. Windows 98 needs special software to write data to CD-R/RW disc. Such software is needed, to acess disk writen by windows XP built in UDF capability.
Windows 98 can not see by itself unrecorded disks also.
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What is the speed of the Win 98 CD drive? I just had to pitch an old CD burner that could not read or write to the new high speed CD disks. I don't think burning at 1x will change the physics of the CD disk.
One thought here that MIGHT work is to get a Windows XP CD and browse it in DOS on your Windows 98 computer. What I mean is to open a DOS box in Win98 and change directory to the "I386" folder of the WinXP CD.
Use the following command to extract the file UDFS.SY_ to your desktop or elsewhere:
extract udfs.sy_ c:\windows\desktop\udfs.sy s
Once you have the file, you could try moving it around some of your system folders to see what happens. eg. c:\windows, c:\windows\system, c:\windows\system\iosubsys .
It's worth a try, while I am checking this out further. Just don't let it overwrite any existing files of that name that may already be on your system.
Use the following command to extract the file UDFS.SY_ to your desktop or elsewhere:
extract udfs.sy_ c:\windows\desktop\udfs.sy
Once you have the file, you could try moving it around some of your system folders to see what happens. eg. c:\windows, c:\windows\system, c:\windows\system\iosubsys
It's worth a try, while I am checking this out further. Just don't let it overwrite any existing files of that name that may already be on your system.
Not sure if the Adaptec udf file reader will help your Win98 system see a CD created in WinXP, but here's some download pages (read the warnings first):
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/utilities/other/udfrinst102.exe
http://www.download.com/Adaptec-UDF-Reader-Driver/3000-2100_4-9497911.html?tag=stbc.gp
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/Adaptec-UDF-Reader-Driver/3000-2100_2-9497911.html?tag=stbc.gp
http://thetechnozone.com/pcbuyersguide/hardware/storage/udf.html
Please read some example feedback pages first so that you are aware of the potential risks involved:
http://www.download.com/3302-2100-9497911.html
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3302-2100_2-9497911.html?pn=1&fb=2
The problem is that there are a few versions of this udf cd format, ie. UDF v.1.02, 1.5, 2.0, 2.01 and also UDF Bridge format.
See here:
http://www.osta.org/specs/index.htm
You can get utility programs that help your system read cd's created on other systems, eg:
http://www.cdroller.com/htm/udfread.html
http://www.udftoolkit.com/
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/utilities/other/udfrinst102.exe
http://www.download.com/Adaptec-UDF-Reader-Driver/3000-2100_4-9497911.html?tag=stbc.gp
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/Adaptec-UDF-Reader-Driver/3000-2100_2-9497911.html?tag=stbc.gp
http://thetechnozone.com/pcbuyersguide/hardware/storage/udf.html
Please read some example feedback pages first so that you are aware of the potential risks involved:
http://www.download.com/3302-2100-9497911.html
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3302-2100_2-9497911.html?pn=1&fb=2
The problem is that there are a few versions of this udf cd format, ie. UDF v.1.02, 1.5, 2.0, 2.01 and also UDF Bridge format.
See here:
http://www.osta.org/specs/index.htm
You can get utility programs that help your system read cd's created on other systems, eg:
http://www.cdroller.com/htm/udfread.html
http://www.udftoolkit.com/
"I used XP Pro's native copy to copy a small data file at 1X speed and when I put that disk in the W98 machine I got an "access denied." Same thing happened when I put in a new CD-R blank out of the box."
Then it seems very plain to me that the CD-Rom is simply incaple of reading the type of format (or lack of it being formatted) of the disk.
Then it seems very plain to me that the CD-Rom is simply incaple of reading the type of format (or lack of it being formatted) of the disk.
R/W units have a label specifying the make recommended.
Anyway, whin my cd rom started to make noise I went to buy another one. Well to my surprise the R/W units are only 20 dollars more than a cd rom drive. Ever since I have been using my cd R/W unit for all applications and never had trpouble.
gonzal13(jOe)
Anyway, whin my cd rom started to make noise I went to buy another one. Well to my surprise the R/W units are only 20 dollars more than a cd rom drive. Ever since I have been using my cd R/W unit for all applications and never had trpouble.
gonzal13(jOe)
Thank you, normanml
Did you try a factory CD to see if it could be read?
If it can't read a factory CD then likely the CD-Rom is bad or the lens is dirty. (or maybe a bad IDE cable or controller)