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Windows Server 2003 maintenance recommendations.

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Do Microsoft provide recommendations for 2003 server regarding:

a) uptime (i.e. server should be rebooted after 'x' days uptime).
b) fragmentation levels (% that is acceptable, poor, critical.)

I really need  a link to a microsoft document, not opinions. Thanks.
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by:Sembee
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I have never seen anything from Microsoft on those measures.

a: I only reboot my servers for patches. This isn't Windows 95 which used to crash if left up for too long. Those days are gone. If you have to reboot regularly then you have a problem with an application - not the OS.

b: What kind of fragmentation? Disk, memory, AD database?

Simon.
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by:danwinson
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b) disk fragmentation
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by:Sembee
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This is the closest I can get from Microsoft for Disk fragmentation.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/administration/fileandprint/defrag.asp

There isn't an equivilient Windows 2003 document that I can find.

Simon.
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by:danwinson
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Thanks for the article, but I really need microsoft recommendations for 2003 server.
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by:danwinson
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I would be as happy with microsoft documentation saying machines don't need to be rebooted ever. I am developing a maintenance plan and I have to have something to back up my recommendations.

- recommended max days uptime prior to reboot
- disk fragmentation % when running defrag is recommended

Half total points for each requirement. Thanks.
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by:Sembee
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I don't think you will find documentation that says what you are looking for. It is impossible for Microsoft to create such documentation. They do not know what applications and services you are going to put on to your machine. One of those applications could have a memory leak that means you need to reboot once a week because the original developers went bust and the company relies on that app.

As for disk fragmentation I run Diskeeper on all my servers so it isn't a problem. You may want to look at their web site (http://www.execsoft.com/) where they have white papers that indicate where disk fragmentation becomes a problem.

Simon.
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by:danwinson
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I haven't been able to find anything, thanks for your assistance everyone, moderator please close question and refund points.
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by:harleyjd
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Dan - just so you know - the answer is "there is no answer" which is a valid response, thus pointworthy.
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by:danwinson
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just because an answer hasn't been provided doesn't mean there isn't one (or does it?).As already stated I would be more than happy to accept a MS or other reputable document stating that there isn't an answer, but due to client requirements I can't just say - "someone told me..." . Come on, it's 400 points, I don't think it is asking too much for some proof.
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by:harleyjd
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My recommendation is based on my belief there is no answer. Simon is one of the most knowledgable guys here, and if he doesn't think there is one, there probably is not.

You also have to read his statement in full regarding different applications, and consider whether Microsoft would really recommend rebooting servers when they claim uptimes equal to linux. Or they did, at least.

It's also very hard to prove a negative. If Simon doesn't agree with the points, he will say so.





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by:Sembee
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The problem with this type of query is that is really does vary. Every server will have different maintainance plans.

For example, at one site I look after the servers never get rebooted except for Microsoft patches. They have an uptime of over 99% for the year so far.

However at another site one server is rebooted on a schedule of every Friday afternoon. There is a third party application running on the machine with a memory leak which causes unstability. However upgrading is not an option as that will cause more downtime.

This is where an experienced network administrator comes in. They will know what is required for their particular site and will adjust as required.
No two sites will be the same, which means that there will be no documentation that you can download or read as to practises for your site.

Therefore the only recommendation that you can make is either based on the ideal (only reboot when required) or based on experiences gained from the site. You may also get something from the vendor of any third party applications, but I doubt whether any of them will admit that there is a problem that requires regular reboots.

Simon.
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by:Sembee
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Could I ask why this has been refunded?

I gave an answer which I believe was fully valid, albeit negative. There is no way that we can provide the type of information that the poster has requested as there are too many variables.

Simon.
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by:harleyjd
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well, the mods don't always take my recommendation, especially where there is any dissent, but in this case I am 100% behind you, Simon. I think my recommendation was justified, and the subsequent discussion does not sway me from that.
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by:danwinson
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I am open to discussion on this issue and will of course accept what the mods decide, let's hold the point refund until this is resolved.
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by:danwinson
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I agree with modulo. My original request was not met therefore I won't be awarding points. Thanks for the efforts though.
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