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I ocassionally recieve PDF files with artwork that we need to print with that have the fonts embeded instead of converted to curves.   The embeded fonts work fine in the PDF reader but the problem is when i import them in to my graphics applications these embeded fonts get lost and the fonts get replaced with default ones.

I am wondering if there is something that i am missing, all i need to do is get the document into a graphics progrmag i do not need to do any editing on them.  I have found that opening up these type of documents into photoshop does work but seeing as most of them are like 10"-30" in width that creats for some big files.

Some of the programs i hvae are Adobe Photoshop CS, Corel Draw 12 and Adobe Illustrator 10.

Thanks in advance for any help!
-=Travis=-
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What happens when you open the PDF in Illustrator? Do you have Adobe Acrobat?
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In illustrator i get missing fonts, And no i don't have Adobe Acrobat.
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You may simply be outta luck then. Acrobat is super helpful in these sorts of situations.
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Well thanks for the input i will persue acrobat as a option. i have some time today at work so i will dig through our software box and see if i can find it!
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When you embed a font in a PDF file craeted by Acrobat Distiller the fonts can be viewed and printed, but cannot be edited by Illustrator unless you have local copies of the full font.  You can, however, see what fonts are being used in a PDF file.  The simplest way is to go to the File | Document Info in Acrobat (Reader or Professional) and choose Font Info.  But this shows only the fonts in use on the current page.  Try a plugin like Enfocus Pit Stop for more complete font information (http://www.enfocus.com/).  You may find that you have the fonts available, or can ask the document creator to send you copies of those embedded fonts for use.  Alternatively, the document creator could also send you the AI file which the fonts converted to curves.  Of course, with this approach the fonts can no longer be scaled as nicely since you only have the vector data of the letter forms approximated, rather than in their full mathematical sophistication as in the font files, and you will not be able to edit the text itself, but you also do not need to have the font files.  The same result could be accomplished by rendering the PDF file to a bitmapped file with Adobe Photoshop where you could set it at any arbitrary resolution, albeit with potentially very large files.
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basically we are a printing company and all we need to do is print from the files though our printing methods do not let us print directly from a pdf file.  I am not concerned about the editability of the fonts later.  what i basically want to do is take the files we recieve with embeded fonts and contert them to curves so i can import them into corel.  I did get my hands on Acrabat but it doesn't seam to do what i wanted it to.. as for now i just request that the customer send the file converted to curves which works but in many cases the person doing the artwork is not associated with our customer so this process can take days.  The photoshop method is what i have been doing for now but you can imagine how big a 20x20 file @ 500dpi is and it brings our printers to a hault sometimes taking 10-15 min to process.  

Maybe my current process is the best process for now..
thanks guys for the input!
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You're using Corel as your primary tool in a print environment? You might want to think about modifying your workflow to incorporate PDF printing. Corel is a bit anemic when you're getting files from so many different sources as this current issue illustrates.
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Well i have seam to stumbled on something that is close to what i wanted...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

I am not crazy about using a open source progrma to convert my artwork but i will just keep a close eye and make sure nothing stupid is getting changed on me..

I appreciate your comment weed but for what we do here corel is the only program that we can use! Not to mention some of the custom plugins we have for it which we depend on.  I do admit it does cause us a lot of problems when importing files from other programs but corel 12 does do this a lot better then the previous versions.
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Learn to love Open Source. It's often great stuff and can be significantly better than the mainstream. Open Source developers also tend to fill the gaps that the mainstreamers leave out. Case in point.
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