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Upgrading MoBo in W2K revisited
Hi guys,
Here's the scenario. A W2K box that needs a MoBo upgraded (replaced). I did it in the past with results that would have been tragic if not for some help from EE. I understand that setting IDE controllers to default would prevent the W2K install from crashing in the new Mobo, but I have no idea of how to do this.
Points and beer galore are the coveted prize.
Good Vibes!
Lobo
Here's the scenario. A W2K box that needs a MoBo upgraded (replaced). I did it in the past with results that would have been tragic if not for some help from EE. I understand that setting IDE controllers to default would prevent the W2K install from crashing in the new Mobo, but I have no idea of how to do this.
Points and beer galore are the coveted prize.
Good Vibes!
Lobo
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BTW: I wrote that for XP, but it should work for W2K also... :)
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Hi Fatal,
The machine has two Primary hard drives (Master and Slave) both in Ultra DMA Mode; and two Secondary drives (a CD writer and a DVD ROM)
Expanding IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers shows:
-Primary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver)
-Secondary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver)
-VIA Bus Master IDE Controller (with VIA Driver)
Should the VIA one be removed or is that the one that needs the driver changed to Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller?
Hi Callandor,
Great link, thanks!! I'm making a printout to keep as a reference in case I need it. In any case, I plan to do the Mobo swap in two days.
Good Vibes!
Lobo
The machine has two Primary hard drives (Master and Slave) both in Ultra DMA Mode; and two Secondary drives (a CD writer and a DVD ROM)
Expanding IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers shows:
-Primary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver)
-Secondary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver)
-VIA Bus Master IDE Controller (with VIA Driver)
Should the VIA one be removed or is that the one that needs the driver changed to Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller?
Hi Callandor,
Great link, thanks!! I'm making a printout to keep as a reference in case I need it. In any case, I plan to do the Mobo swap in two days.
Good Vibes!
Lobo
The important one is the Primary IDE Channel where the hard drive is with the System Partition on it. This is the one you will be booting to as it has your OS. Once you can boot into the OS, you will update the drivers on all channels with the ones on the Mobo Install Cdrom..
FE
FE
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Hi Fatal,
k, Primary shows as Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver so I gues that's okay, right? What should I do with the VIA Bus Master IDE Controller?
Good Vibes!
Lobo
k, Primary shows as Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers with Microsoft driver so I gues that's okay, right? What should I do with the VIA Bus Master IDE Controller?
Good Vibes!
Lobo
I have never had to reduce that (VIA Bus Master IDE Controller) to the Windows's defaults before, so I would leave it alone. Now, all this being said, these solutions are not full proof. This is just an easy way to go about doing the swap, and it works in 90% of the cases. (I have done quite a few, and it worked for me each time...)
Now, there is also another way to go about this, and I should have mentioned it also. There is a reg hack that populates the registry with a set of controllers. I am going to post a page on my website for this, although it is not up yet. Should be on by tonight.
FE
Now, there is also another way to go about this, and I should have mentioned it also. There is a reg hack that populates the registry with a set of controllers. I am going to post a page on my website for this, although it is not up yet. Should be on by tonight.
FE
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Cool, thanks!
Okay, since I figured you may need that page published on my website, I decided to stop procrastinating on it and get it up.
So.... go here:
www.doverproductions.com
then look in the left hand table for "Moving XP / 2000 : New Motherboard Installation Tips" (I think I may need to rename this in the future, but it will do for now)
The important thing here is to follow the directions for preparing for the Registry Edit. And, if you do this, please backup your registry before you go any further. You can read my page on Registry Backups while you are there.. :)
FE
So.... go here:
www.doverproductions.com
then look in the left hand table for "Moving XP / 2000 : New Motherboard Installation Tips" (I think I may need to rename this in the future, but it will do for now)
The important thing here is to follow the directions for preparing for the Registry Edit. And, if you do this, please backup your registry before you go any further. You can read my page on Registry Backups while you are there.. :)
FE
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Hi Guys,
I tried Callandor's approach as it seems like the most straightforward; the one in which you shut the power off half way through a fake "update." I worked, kinda. I got the machine to boot, but had to reinstall software. Also, the second drive would not be recognized. Fiddling with the Administrative Tools, I managed to assign a letter to the second drive, so that was cool.
I found a problem. The machine would not let me re-install GoBack, mentioning a partition that already had a GoBack folder. There were no logical partitions in the drives and I got curious about this, so I installed Partition Magic, and there it was, a "hidden" partition of nearly 10Mb in the Primary Master disk. I formated it, assigned it a letter, and then merged it with the main C: partition. After reboot, I got the dreaded "Unaccesible_Boot_Device" BSOD.
So back to square one. Had to plop in the OS CD and reinstall from scratch. Bummer, huh?
One little detail I found, very OT. It looks like IE installs a toolbar spyware. After doing the reinstall, installing NAV and Norton Firewall, and Spybot and AdAware; I ran a full system scan and ran Spybot and Adware. Both found Alexa objects; which I considered strange. I got all the objects cleaned and rebooted. Machine clean. Reboot. AdAware. Machine clean. Ran Windows Update and selected the Internet Explorer Update only. After the reboot, I ran AdAware again and there it was... Alexa again.
Apparently the same object comes in the version of IE that comes bundled with Windows XP, I'll post a comment on this at Cd's "Standard response material..." in the Browser Issues TA.
Anyway, the machine is back up and running. I'm splitting points. Thanks guys for all your help and hard work. EE rocks!
Good Vibes,
Lobo
I tried Callandor's approach as it seems like the most straightforward; the one in which you shut the power off half way through a fake "update." I worked, kinda. I got the machine to boot, but had to reinstall software. Also, the second drive would not be recognized. Fiddling with the Administrative Tools, I managed to assign a letter to the second drive, so that was cool.
I found a problem. The machine would not let me re-install GoBack, mentioning a partition that already had a GoBack folder. There were no logical partitions in the drives and I got curious about this, so I installed Partition Magic, and there it was, a "hidden" partition of nearly 10Mb in the Primary Master disk. I formated it, assigned it a letter, and then merged it with the main C: partition. After reboot, I got the dreaded "Unaccesible_Boot_Device" BSOD.
So back to square one. Had to plop in the OS CD and reinstall from scratch. Bummer, huh?
One little detail I found, very OT. It looks like IE installs a toolbar spyware. After doing the reinstall, installing NAV and Norton Firewall, and Spybot and AdAware; I ran a full system scan and ran Spybot and Adware. Both found Alexa objects; which I considered strange. I got all the objects cleaned and rebooted. Machine clean. Reboot. AdAware. Machine clean. Ran Windows Update and selected the Internet Explorer Update only. After the reboot, I ran AdAware again and there it was... Alexa again.
Apparently the same object comes in the version of IE that comes bundled with Windows XP, I'll post a comment on this at Cd's "Standard response material..." in the Browser Issues TA.
Anyway, the machine is back up and running. I'm splitting points. Thanks guys for all your help and hard work. EE rocks!
Good Vibes,
Lobo
Great Lobo.. good info also..
Thanks..
FE
Thanks..
FE
first, if you are going to use the hd from the old box, then boot with the oem cd and do a repair to let windows try and locate the different drivers, after which you can upgrade any drivers that give you trouble.
hope that this helps