vb.net PUZZLE !! (TRY..CATCH)


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Why does program behave differently when running through visual studio, compared to just running the executable?

Here is the program:
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1) create new vb.net windows app
2) change properties on project such that main is the starting point for the project, and not form1
3) add the following module code, after adding module1, then add the form code to form1
4) run the project through visual studio and run the exe created, outside the visual studio envioronment... they behave differently....


Module Module1
    Public Sub Main()
        Dim s As Form1

        Try
            s = New Form1
            s.ShowDialog()

        Catch ex As Exception

            MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
            s.Close()

        End Try
    End Sub

End Module





DO NOT CUT AND PASTE THE WHOLE FORM, FOR FORM1
INSTEAD, DROP A BUTTON ONTO THE FORM, AND THEN ONLY CUT AND PASTE THE BUTTON1 CLICK EVENT BELOW...


Public Class Form1
    Inherits System.Windows.Forms.Form

   '+ windows generated code....   <-- this one you will have to leave alone...


    Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
        Throw New Exception("Sorry buddy...  Program has fatal error...")

    End Sub

    Private Sub Form1_Load(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load

    End Sub
End Class





kamleshmistryAsked:
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gregoryyoungConnect With a Mentor Commented:
why not just use a global exception handler ?

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Bob LearnedCommented:
I didn't have time for testing this out.  I was curious what the difference was for you.

Bob
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srcalcCommented:
they both did the same thing for me... they both worked
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gregoryyoungConnect With a Mentor Commented:
you havnt done Application.Run which sets up your message pump (which is why the button wont show up)
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Mike TomlinsonConnect With a Mentor Middle School Assistant TeacherCommented:
On my system the forms looked the same, the difference was in the way the exception was displayed after clicking the button:

From in the IDE, I got a simple msgbox like dialog with no title, "Sorry buddy...  Program has fatal error..." in the body, and an "OK" button.

From the EXE, I got a much more robust message box:

+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Form1                                                                                            X |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|    /----\    An Unhanled exception has occurred.....                                 |
|   |  X  |                                                                                              |
|    \----/    Sorry buddy... Program has fatal error.                                  |
|                                                                                                          |
|  +---------------+                                                        +---------------+  |
|  |     Details     |                                                         |   Continue    |  |
|  +---------------+                                                         +---------------+ |
|                                                                                                          |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I changed Sub Main() to this:

    Public Sub Main()
        Try
            Application.Run(New Form1)
        Catch ex As Exception
            MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
        End Try
    End Sub

and the dialog box was different again (stil the same in the IDE though):

+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Form1                                                                                            X |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|    /----\    An Unhanled exception has occurred.....                                 |
|   |  X  |                                                                                              |
|    \----/    Sorry buddy... Program has fatal error.                                  |
|                                                                                                          |
|  +---------------+                              +---------------+     +---------------+ |
|  |     Details     |                              |   Continue    |      |      Quit       |  |
|  +---------------+                              +---------------+     +---------------+ |
|                                                                                                          |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Idle_Mind
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kamleshmistryAuthor Commented:

I didn't ellaborate enough...

The two different results are obtained when clicking on button1
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kamleshmistryAuthor Commented:

The difference between the behavior is that one method exectues code of try catch while the other doesn't

In this case, its just a message-box--no problem

But suppose I wanted to save my file when program crashes?

Suppose I put that in the try-catch...

Problem:  executable displays error message and doesn't process the try-catch

The visual studio version works correctly and processes my try-catch...
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wguerramConnect With a Mentor Commented:
I have seen many problems handling errors in the sub main form

      Try
            s = New Form1
            s.ShowDialog()

        Catch ex As Exception

            MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)
            s.Close()

        End Try

For some reason this is not catching the errors on the form.

Probably it is a bug, not sure if it is documented.
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kamleshmistryAuthor Commented:

any work-arounds, anybody?

I tried show instead of showdialog, etc....  nothing seemed to work right....
I need to be able to catch exception for the exe file created (not just within visual studio....)

does 2005 work?  is upgrading expensive?






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kamleshmistryAuthor Commented:
Nobody gave workable answer.
Question is being graded and points awarded for trying to help...
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gregoryyoungCommented:
sorry I didnt see the last post here ... a global exception handler will do this for you ...

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