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I'm sure I've screwed up a group policy somwhere, but a new SBS 2k3 box I set up for a client cannot be seen in My Network Places. I don't recall it having been there at all during the install, so I can't put a finger on a "I did this, then it happened" time... The W2K Terminal Server sitting next to it is in the master browser list...

You can use a unc path to access any resource on the server, as well as using just \\server to view the available resources, the AD DNS server is happily accepting queries and dynamic updates. DHCP is issuing leases, with the correct  Subnet, Router and DNS settings.

There are no login problems such as applying settings for ages, and more annoyingly no errors in the event logs.

I've turned off all network encryption to stop slow transfers, and I'm really hoping I didn't change something I shouldn't have. I tried unlinking all policies in the GP editor, but that didn't help - I may well have not done a correct gpudate, though. I found an "lmannounce" in the lanmanserver (I think) key, but changing that didn't help.

Netbios over TCP/IP has been verified as on.

The real headache with all this is that I can't install Trend Officescan 5.58, as it uses the master browser list to verify the servername you wish to install on. It's really bugging me.

I'm back onsite tomorrow, so hopefully someone here will be able to point me in the right direction...

There was one other thing that freaked me out - maybe unrelated but who knows - I was messing with an old Netgear PS110 print server. When trying to access it from the server, the server threw a stop error (I wrote it down, but don't have it here) the module was netbios.sys. After the restart it's been plain sailing, but the PS110 is completely carked.
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Hi,

About the above question. Looks like a DNS problem. Try using the ipconfig /registerdns option on the SBS 2003 server.
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Nope, sorry. It's properly registered in DNS. Not only that but the usual signs of a DNS problem are not there. GP is applied across the domain, Software updates via GP. Pritners work, the client's accounting package (solution 6, if you've ever heard of it) works flawlessly, and that's one of the biggest indicators of DNS problems.
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Ok. didn't saw who asked the question.. Have seen you around here some more....
I will try to look into it this evening, i know that there is some sort of solution for this problem.. Are you using RRAS to connect to the server?? Or are you sitting at the location itself??
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'sokay - I've only been here a few days (6800 points so far, though!)

RRAS isn't 100% yet - I'm getting a default IP when I dial in not a DHCP as specified (maybe it's related, though I've found a technet article that applies only to RRAS), but in answer to your Q - this happens on the LAN, to Domain Members, the server itself (yes, it really cannot see itself!) and my laptop which is not a member of the domain, but uses a user/pass that matches a domain user/pass.

man, I'm off to bed...

'night all...

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Have you cked to make sure that your Master Browser is running on your DC?

Use browstat command for this...

http://www.ss64.com/nt/browstat.html

Description of the NetBIOS Browsing Console (Browcon.exe).

http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBN/tip6900/rh6927.htm
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Are you running dual nics?  ISA?
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Yes, Multi Homed ISA 2000 server.
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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>browstat sta


Status for domain DOMIAN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9475C313-0F95-4303-9FD
F-AED008AB213F}
    Browsing is active on domain.
    Master browser name is: SP-SVR01 << That's My SBS Server!
        Master browser is running build 3790
    2 backup servers retrieved from master SP-SVR01
        \\SP-WTS01
        \\SP-SVR01
    There are 13 servers in domain DOMAIN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9475C313-0F95-4303-9FDF-AED008AB213F}
    There are 1 domains in domain DOMAIN on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9475C313-0F95-4303-9FDF-AED008AB213F}

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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>browstat sts \\sp-svr01
Unable to query browser statistics: 87

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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>browstat gm \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9475C313-0F95-4303-9FDF-AED008AB213F} DOMAIN
Master Browser: SP-SVR01

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So except that STS it all looks fine.
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FWIW - I just cleaned out the WINS database. Still NBG
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Correct..  that looks right..  hmmmm
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Here's a tip - don't set the lanmanserver\parameters\hidden flag to 1 on a DC. I lost all current network connections, rather annoying the client.

Still not sorted after the reboot, though...
 
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Good tip...!!

Since you mentioned that this is multihomed..  Did you read this?

For the PDC to build a single domain-wide list, it cannot be a multi-homed server. Each master browser on remote segments will establish a connection to the PDC. Because there is no guarantee that every master browser will choose the same interface on the PDC, the PDC must be single-homed so that a single domain-wide list can be built. Also, all master browsers must be single-homed. Every 12 minutes, the master browser connects to the PDC and requests the domain-wide list. The master browser then issues a Master Announcement Browser frame to the PDC telling it to connect to the master browser and obtain its local lists. However, because the PDC does not maintain separate IP addresses for each interface on the master browser, when the PDC connects to the master browser, it only obtains the list of computers and servers that are collected on that particular interface.

Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305

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Ok, we're sorta getting somewhere...

When doing a vw it lists all machines in the domain, except the SBS box, which is the master browser. I've tried force announce, and restarts et al, but it won't show in that vw list. Every other browstat option shows it up correctly, just this one doesnt. There is no "mbr" listing in the vw at all. It's really weird...
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don't you hate it when we are 'sorta getting somewhere'?  :)

I must hit the sack, as this week looks like a long one..  Will ck back tomorrow when I am a little fresher to see if I have any other ideas..  

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Do you have another server than you can run wins on or do you need wins at all?  I had the same problem on a dc with dual nics so I move the wins to a different server.
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Thanks, FE.

stienmto - I'll try that on the Terminal Server - it's worth a shot, I suppose...

I've already set the Terminal Server Broswer "isdomaincontroller" to TRUE
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Ok, I'm going to request this is closed and the points refunded, unless there are valid objections

I ended up talking to MS support for 5 hours today, we tried all this again, we went through the Group Policies, and evenutally he got me to reset the Default Domain and DC policies.

Once that was done we were set.

Thanks for trying, everyone...

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5 hours..??  whoa..  but glad you got her fixed..!!

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No objections...
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