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System reboots after the Login screen using Novell Client 4.9 and Windows XP Pro

Hi,

I have an Optiplex GX280 Machine, with Windows XP Pro SP1, and Novell Client 4.90 installed, as soon as I try to log into the workstation whether it is into NDS or just workstation only, the workstation will reboot itself.

Also under version 4.83sp3 of the client I am not able to manipulate the workstation when remote controlling the workstation using novell zenworks. If I install Windows XP SP2 and then the client version 4.9, I do not get the rebooting problem but I still have the issue with remote control.

Any suggestions
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I suspect the Remote Control issue after installation of XP SP2 comes from the firewall "feature" of XP SP2. Actually, the firewall exists in XP and XP SP1, but is turned off by default (gee, that's useful) - XP SP 2 turns it on and does a moderately decent job of locking it down (as much as can be done on an OS so fundamentally insecure as Windoze - think of trying to firewall swiss cheese). However, the lockdown is almost certainly what is causing that issue.

The following Novell TIDs show what TCP/IP ports need to be open for Novell's products, including Client 32 and ZEN:

http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10013531.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/2944440.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10071836.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10065719.htm

Note that the straight Client 32 v4.90 (no SPs) had problems. Significant problems. You should try v4.90 with SP 2 and the post-SP-2 "B" patch (so, v4.90.2B). Avoid installing the NMAS functionality if you don't need it.

Also, after having a clean Client 32 install and still seeing ZEN problems,  removing and reinstalling the ZEN agents has helped us get around balky agents on specific machines.
There were many issues with remote control depending on the mix of client version and ZEN version (which you do not mention.)  That could explain the RC problem using 4.83.

As far as the reboot, is it an actual reboot or does Windows just restart itself?

I do recall an issue with XP Pro puking during login, and I think PsiCop is on the right track with the NMAS thing.  In addition to using SP2 with the "B" patch, and turning off the stupid XP firewall, you should check into the NMAS issue.  If you have installed NMAS during the 4.9 client install, and you do not have NMAS configured in your eDirectory environment, make sure to set  NMAS Authentication to Off in the Novell Client Properties, Advanced Login tab.
backrev to Windows 2000
I hear ya.  I'm trying to convince my daughter to stick with Win2K on her Pentium 3 850MHz laptop. She's a college senior doing Engineering, and  I think she wants XP 'cause some other roommates have XP and she feels outdated.  I told her that if we upgrade her to XP, everything will run slower and she won't really see any major improvements in functionality.  I don't know if that stuck - time will tell.
kids.  They never listen ;)

My daughter started Kindergarten last week.
So you've got a couple of years yet to teach her right.  Make her an MCSE's nightmare <evil grin>
Re: I hear ya.

Everyone wanted to travel on the Titanic too don't forget.
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XSINUX

I came to this Thread hoping to find a genuine answer. Whats supposed to be a solution for Novell Client 4.9 and Windows XP Pro ....  instead I can see two dads talking about their daughters and somebody wanting every body to be on the Titanic. Boy I would think twice to be on the Titanic.

Shineon was referring to upgrade her to XP. Wonder who she is ....

Ahah Hope the MCSE Nightmare turns the Windows to BSOD. :))

Now I know why Questions are posted with higher Pointes. Because everyone sticks to the point. This fella is asking too much for 50 points ! :)) Mate , do you want some points for a start ? Atleast 500 for such questions ....

Boy watta am I doin here !!!

G2go.




XSINUX - read the first 2 comments.  Yes, we went off-topic after that.  So what?  We addressed the issue and suggested a solution, to which the Asker has not responded.  Even the off-topic comments were relevant in that it is likely a problem caused by Windows XP that would never have occurred using Windows 2000, which is stable and runs faster on less hardware than WinXP.

Since you skipped over the ANSWERS given and made "cute" comments about the rest, I can't help but wonder - are you a troll?
:) No mate ... Just Joking ! Wish the Asker was Mr. Simpson. I would have got the 50 pts. :))

Cheers
Sinu
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I really appreciate the solutions given in the first two comments, but I have to fix this issue without switching over to Windows 2000, which even I agree is stable..

The whole problem lies only when the Zenworks component is selected.. also don't think can avoid the NMAS funtionality..

XSINUX,
I don't understand why you felt enraged by the comments, instead of trying to help if you can.

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Sajen - you still haven't mentioned what version of ZEN you're running.  That makes a difference.  ZFD 3.2 is incompatible with the 4.9x client on XP until and unless you get current with the ZFD patches.  The RC with the 4.83 client and pre-SP3 ZFD3.2 wouldn't work.  Not knowing your environment, my best guess could be way off.

When you have this kind of issue, please tell us all the versions of everything relevant to the issue - NetWare version and SP, client version and SP, other software versions and SP...

If you have 3.2, get it current.  Get your NetWare current.  If you do install the NMAS component, then you should turn it off in the Advanced Login tab of the client properties UNLESS you are using NMAS authentication.
With the OptiPlex GX280, there has been an issue noted that after installing the "Novell Client 4.90 SP1a" the machine consistently reboots when ever you enter your login credentials and begin to log into the network. this occurred on the Dell out of the box image so we rebuilt it with "Windows XP PRO SP1 Volume License" cd then installed the nic drivers, applied the Novell Client and it began to reboot again.

Basically after installing the Novell client version 4.9, as soon as you log into the workstation whether it is into NDS or just workstation only, the workstation will reboot itself. Also under version 4.83sp3 of the client we are not able to manipulate the workstation when remote controlling the workstation using novell zenworks.

If we install xpsp2 and then the client version 4.9, I do not get the rebooting problem but I still have the issue with remote control.


*We also tried using the Novell Client SP2 Update - No go
* If we remove the zenworks component out of this installation there is no problem. The Problem only comes up when we have the Zenworks component installed and it is very vital for the setup that the zenworks should be installed.

The Versions are

Zenworks 4.01,
Novell Client 4.9 SP2
"If we install xpsp2 and then the client version 4.9, I do not get the rebooting problem but I still have the issue with remote control."

Haveyou tried disabling the "firewall" component of SP2?
I believe that with Zen 4.x you have to use a different RC component, 'cause the one that ships with the client is the 3.2 version.