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Need to View all Groups in Active Directory, Performing search shows all groups

Posted on 2004-09-24
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I am coming into supporting a domain that someone else setup.  I am doing security checks and inventory of users and groups.

The following groups are "missing" in AD when I view the directory strucutre:

Domain Admins
Domain Users
Enterprise Admins
Cert Publishers
DHCP Administrators
....and more

I would think that the person before me "deleted" or hid these items?

I want to export delimited text from them so I can run security checks.

Thank you in advance,
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You can do some exporting of groups with the

net groups /domain

command from the command prompt and then

net group <Groupname> /domain

to see the members.
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Yes,

I am now familiar with how to export.

I would also like to be able to go into AD and see all 50+ groups in there rather than just the Builtins and then the spcific ones created for our company (there were some distribution and security groups created)

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You can right click on the domain and do a find.  Search the entire domain and then sort by type to see all of your groups.  If you want only groups that have e-mail addresses, then you can use the Exchange tab and select only groups.
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Clarification:
I do not want to have to do a search.  I want all groups in AD visible in the structure.
As of current, there are no filters set that I can see.


I don't need a hidden panel in my fridge, I just want to open it and see what I have to eat for dinner.
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Oh, I don't know in that case.  Are all of the groups in a special OU that you don't know it's location?  All of ours are currently stored in the "Users" root OU rather than their respective sites.  If the person before you moved it to another OU or put it in a hidden container.

You could try going to View>Advanced Features to see hidden containers or perform a search as I specified earlier, but after doing the search, go to View>Choose Columns and add the "Published To" column and you can see where those groups are located at in the domain.  Might make finding them easier.  Are you using the normal ADUC console or a custom one that was created?
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Ah,  Published To will show me the location?

It looks like a vanilla console to me.
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Yep, it shows you the location in the domain that it is currently in, including the OU
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Do a dump of AD by going to the site: http://www.somarsoft.com/ and download DumpSEC.

It pretty good, I use it at work to dump things like accounts into Excel and check out last login times etc.  Pretty easy to use.
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mclean01, very helpful!!!

I still have the 1st part of the question to be answered.  For the groups that are not showing up in AD without a search, where can I place them?  Make a container and throw them in?  I don't like knowing there are unseen groups with unknown memebers.

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Did you locate where the "missing" groups are stored at in AD?  I would make a "Groups" OU and put all of the groups in there until you get it sorted out.
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Eagle,

That is what I was asking.  I can see the groups if I do the following search,
Find>Advanced>Field>Group>Group Name (Pre Windows 2000)

and then I put in an asterisk

whew!  As you see, a lot of work to just view groups.
I will do that then, put all the groups that are not visible into a Groups OU for now.

That DumpSec tool is amazing Mclean!


I am going to award points to Eagle and Mclean.  If you two have additional comments, please provide today as I will award points tomorrow.
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When you did the search, did you add the "Published at" column to see where they were located orignally?  I've never seen groups just not be shown, but they could be in an OU that you aren't aware of.  THen you could find where these groups are located and maybe they will show up by normally navigating to that OU.  There might be a reason the previous adminsitrator put them there.

We use DumpSec as well to view permissions on folders on our domain controllers
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Sorry but I didn't see if this has been brought up but could the reason that you can't see any groups is because you viewing all of the objects as Containers?

1) Right click the window to the right or in a blank area (can't remember the official term - taskpad was it?)
2) Go to View and uncheck: Users, Groups and Computers as Containers

(You may have to click the Hide/Show console tree in the toolbar also)

This was the only obvious thing I could think of that would hide the groups.  (That or the previous admin actually edited the ACL on the container to prevent anyone from listing it.)
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