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I have mastercam version 4.1 and it only runs in dos. Can I run this with xp installed? If not, it runs on my old system with windows 3.1 restarted in dos mode. Can I install windows 3.1 or windows 95 with xp and will I be able to boot it into dos mode to run this software. Any other suggestions other than upgrading are welcome.

Thanks, Troy
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Many different 16-bit programs designed to run under Microsoft Windows 3.1 have been tested with Windows XP. When you troubleshoot a 16-bit Windows-based program that is not working properly under Windows XP, consider the following items:   More here.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314495&Product=winxp

I assume you modified the program routine to run in compatibility mode?
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Migrating Windows 3.1 Groups After Installation ...  may also be of help, though NT, similar
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;102884
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Troubleshooting MS-DOS-based programs in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314106&Product=winxp
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In case you're at Windows XP SP2...
Some programs seem to stop working after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;842242&Product=winxp
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This program needs to run from dos not a command prompt window.
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I understand, but unclear about alternatives other than those posted in the links I found.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767&Product=winxp

Have you checked into the Mastercam site for any maintenance updates that may help?
http://www.mastercam.com/
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Mastercam and Windows XP
Mastercam functions well in the Windows XP environment. Early information from users of other software products indicates that XP may be a little slower than Windows 2000. The big selling point for XP is stability based on the elimination of the DOS environment. Word from Microsoft is that the "blue screen team" found that 70% of the crashes in Windows 2000 can be attributed to flaws in drivers written by 3rd party vendors of graphics cards, network adapters, and disk drives. CATIA, Pro/E, SolidWorks, and Unigraphics have publicly stated that existing applications should run fine on XP, but customers should be sure their video cards have drivers that support XP or they will have problems. Another item to note, the Home version of XP is not easily set up for a business network environment. Customers opting to save the $100 price difference between the home and professional edition may find themselves in trouble. If you are planning to change to XP, make sure you understand their registration process and copying policy. Once loaded, you have 30 days or 50 boots to register before the operating system no longer works. Once that is done, the software cannot be moved or loaded on another computer. The user is also limited to the number of internal hardware changes that can be made as the ID code sent to Microsoft is based on referencing separate pieces in the computer (video, disk, etc). This is Microsoft's attempt to limit what they call "casual copying" or "softlifting."

XP Notes from the QC department
Mastercam Version 8.1.1 will function properly with Windows XP and an updated HASP driver. This is available on the Mastercam Web site. Windows XP has been tested with Version 6.13, Version 7.2c and Version 8.1.1 and all function properly. Both Version 7.2c, and Version 8.1.1 require the updated HASP driver.
http://www.mastercam.com/Support/techTips/default.asp#windowsxp
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Although this old version is not shown anywhere on their site with any patches or updates due to its age, this link "may" provide a workaround from their support team in terms of options.  Looks like free Email options from them.
http://www.mastercam.com/Contact/default.asp
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I called them and that version will only run from dos mode. Is there any way to run xp in dos mode? Does anyone have a dos simulator for xp?
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I am going to close this question. Thanks, for all the help.
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Thank you, I hope to have some time this weekend to explore a potential simulation interface; though I tried at the onset to find something.  Personally, I always steer clear for Freeware because of all the problems I've had as a result of that in the past.  I'm running Windows XP SP2 and just cloned a drive using Norton's Ghost 2003 which ran purely in DOS without many problems.  So they've figured out how to do this within an XP Windows SP2 interface.  Are you still determined to try and use some Freeware to do this, risk and all?
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