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Strange delay on my PC

Posted on 2004-09-30
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Hello,

I have a simillar problem. Straight after a fresh install of windows xp, I install my motherboard drivers with the the CD I got.
Nowbefore all this problem started happening,  I'd start installing the drivers (the 4 in 1 express install from Gigabyte CD), then the system reboots and continues instaling sound, nic, drivers etc.. then finished, all good.

But lately, after I begin installing, the system reboots to install the sound, nic drivers and so on. But straight after the reboot, the system takes a very long time to continue installing the drivers, and eventually it will continue and finish. It hangs.

The same thing happens with this, I've always has MSN messenger installed and set to load on boot (MSN opens and shows itself on the desktop). Before, the system would boot, go into windows, and load MSN and all my other programs instantly.

Now, the system boots, but  takes a very long time to open display MSN, like it hangs, then all of a sudden everything loads up.

I have no idea what is causing this, it's like as soon as it boots up, it stays idle for a couple of minutes refusing to open my boot up programs.

I have a P4 2.4, 1BG RAM.

Any help would me most appreciated, I have looked everywhere, asked many of my computer friends but everyone seems to be stumped on this one
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Question by:spliffs
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by:Wojciech Duda
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Try using the VIA 4in1 drivers in a new version, get them from the VIA homepage. This delay/timeout can happen if your machine has a nic but is not connected to a LAN/DSL line/cable line. Windows then looks for a network via the NIC but cannot find one, this takes ages. Another possibility is Spyware/Adware, use Spybot/Ad-Aware to check.
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by:Fatal_Exception
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First, is this an installation problem, or a problem you are having after the installation of XP?  Not quite sure after reading the above.  If this is an installation issue, there are setup logs you may view to find the cause of the hang.  Rather than review these logs here, I suggest you go to the following site for an explanation of these logs and where to access them:  (You will find the Troubleshooting Installation problems in the Clean Install link under WXP)

www.doverproductions.com

If the OS is installed and you want to troubleshoot this, go into Msconfig and stop everything from loading at startup.  Then start turning them on one by one, rebooting, and isolate which one is causing the hang.  If you find it still happening after turning off all apps from the Startup, then ck the Services tab in msconfig, ck the box "Hide Windows Services" and stop any non-Windows services from starting at boot also...   Reboot and see if it still occurs.

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by:spliffs
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Yes, this is after installing windows xp.

I have checked msconfig, and there is nothing out of the ordinary there as it is a fresh install. And my NIC is connected to another pc with ICS enabled(no router). I have set in the LAN properties the ip of 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0, however I have left the Prefered DNS and Alternate DNS fields blank.
Also as I have been using my pc more and more, I have noticed delays when emptying the recycle bin, or when opening a folder that contains .exe files it takes a while before the icon is showed, it shows that white square with the blue line on top iconfor a while.
This sort of stuff never has happened before, my pc was always fast as.

And i have looked for the 4 in 1 drivers but i'm not sure which to get as I dont want to get the wrong chipset drivers. The CD I have is called " Motherboard Utility CD (IUCD Ver.2.3)" gigabyte. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great.

Could the LED and Power jumper cables have anything to do with this? because I was playing with them around before because I have a CD burner and a DVD Rom, but when I have them both plugged in, my HDD LED stays fixed on the PC, if i disconnect one of them, the HardDisk light blinks when it has to, not fixed.

Thanks
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by:Fatal_Exception
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Have you cked to make sure that your jumpers are properly set on your master/slave IDE channels?
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by:spliffs
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Yes the IDE cables are set properly.
When doing a fresh install, is there a difference between 'quick format' and 'format'?
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by:Fatal_Exception
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Yes.  A quick format does not do a thorough ck of your hard drive wheras a regular format scans for bad sectors on the drive using the chkdsk command.  A quick format is much quicker, and is usually the way I install an OS when using a new hard drive (which I trust to be good from the factory).  
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by:spliffs
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I have just opened my case and unplugged everything, booted up and silli tle same. This killing me not knowing whats causing this as it started happening immediately after a fresh install!. I dont thing it's spyware related though.

Any suggestions?

By the way thanks for all your replies, this means a great deal to me as this is the only place where I think I will find a solution.
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by:nobus
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Well, it looks like this is not going to be easy to find. You can go 2 ways : soft and hard.
Soft : disable everything in msconfig and check; run sfc in a dos box (sfc /scannow) or do a repair install
Hard : boot up with a minimal config, so take out everything that is not needed to run the system; determine if the problem is still there, and add one by one the devices.
Other way : test everything as far as you can :
memory : http://www.memtest.org/      

disk :

http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/index.htm            Maxtor/Quantu http://www.fcpa.fujitsu.com/download/hard-drives/#diagnostic      Fujitsu http://www.samsungelectronics.com/hdd/support/utilities/utilities_index.html       Samsung
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html            Seagate
http://support.wdc.com/download/                        Western Digital
www.westerndigital.com 
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT             IBM and Hitachi

burnintest :   http://www.passmark.com/products/bit.htm      
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by:Fatal_Exception
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I just noticed your remark:  >>I have set in the LAN properties the ip of 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0, however I have left the Prefered DNS and Alternate DNS fields blank. <<  and that you are running through an ICS box.  192.168.0.1 will be the default gateway of your ICS system, and should NOT be used as an IP address for your new installation.  In fact, the way ICS works is using DHCP to hand out addresses.  If you wish to hard code your IP address, you should use one that is not already being used on the LAN, and increase the last octet at least one digit....

As far as DNS goes, you need this to be able to resolve friendly names to ip addresses.  This too can be hard coded into your IP configuration, if it is not already being handed out via DHCP.  Use the DNS servers of your ISP, which you should be able to find on your ICS system.

The hang on boot can be directly tied to these misconfigurations.  When duplicate IP addresses exist in any network, you will have these problems.

FE
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by:spliffs
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Rejoice!
I have found the soluton.
I updated the NIC drivers. Pc is now working 100%.

And thanks for all your help to everyone.


P.S Yes my pc is the default gateway and as I don't use a router, the ip for this box HAS to be 192.168.0.1 and the second box gets it's ip from dhcp.


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by:Fatal_Exception
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Wonderful thing, good drivers..!!!  Glad you got it..

FE
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by:Wojciech Duda
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Why delete this? A solution was found I'd say keep it and refund.
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