Basic graphics editor needed

I do occasional html/asp/vbscript pages, very plain database front ends, no graphics, notepad to edit or occasionally FrontPage. I do need to add or edit simple things like a gif/jpg logo bar at times. I don't really do any graphics or have any graphics tools - just use whatever I can find installed somewhere.
Can anyone recommend a basic freeware tool to do some editing of simple graphics files please? I am not at all skilled with complex graphics programs so something basic and simple is what I need.

Thanks
George
George46227Asked:
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ElKermConnect With a Mentor Commented:
hmmm I think Gimp and Photoshop are waaayy to heavy if you are just planning to do a few changes on images.
Don't let them buy you CorelDraw either .. to heavy for your basic needs.

Infranview is nice (as mentioned above) but it doesn't give you the right options if you want to put, for instance, just a small text in an image.
On those points it just comes not in place.

Maybe just doing a search for a free image editor at www.tucows.com will give you the right and perfect suit you are looking for.
Here's an example:
http://www.tucows.com/preview/194908.html
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Jaime OlivaresSoftware ArchitectCommented:
a basic **freeware** image editor/viewer could be irfanview. It is multilanguage.

www.irfanview.com
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DaydreamsCommented:
Hi George,

If you have some version of Windows you likely already have Microsoft Paint. I agree that Irfanview would also be valuable to do some basic editing. This combination would afford you some very basic editing capabilities.
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George46227Author Commented:
Typically i have to open a graphics file on a web site, created by someone else in who knows what program, usually a jpg or gif (or sometimes tif?) and edit the "text" for a hop-spot link or maybe just the text in a logo bar - company changes names for example.

George
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Jaime OlivaresSoftware ArchitectCommented:
This can be done with Microsoft Paint tool
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George46227Author Commented:
www.irfanview.com link is no good, it takes me to www.xeran.com.

George
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DaydreamsCommented:
Hi George, try this link:

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194967.html

You will not be able to do the kind of text editing you want with Irfanview, as it is mainly a viewer, but you can crop, resize, and do a few other basic things with it. That's why I mentioned MS Paint.
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DaydreamsCommented:
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HeadIdiotCommented:
the BEST (FREE) graphics editor is the GIMP!
http://www.gimp.org

It does just about everything PhotoShop can do...and it is an open-source freebie!!!!!
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George46227Author Commented:
Is GIMP going to be very hard to install - I've had bad luck with GNU packages, they always seem to need some other library ot something, they often just have the source which then has to be compiled, etc.? I am running Windows - not NIX. If I could find it in a regular install package without having to compile it, search and install other libraries, etc.

George
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HeadIdiotCommented:
You will need to install the GTK library, but it is a self-installing package.  No libraries to compile...just two install packages.  1) GTK  2) GIMP


I absolutely love the GIMP.  It is the only graphics editor I use besides Microsoft Paint.  It will also accept all the brushes and plug-ins designed for both PhotoShop and Paint Shop Pro.
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HeadIdiotCommented:
How is the install coming?
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George46227Author Commented:
HeadIdiot

Right now I have installed Pain Shop Prop 4.14 and am trying it out, I may give GIMP a try soon.
Thanks for the help.

George

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DaydreamsCommented:
Hi George,

I didn't mention PaintShop Pro since you asked specifially for freeware. PaintShop Pro should be able to do all the basic editing you need, with an easier interface than Gimp.
The latest version:

http://www.jasc.com/products/paintshoppro/

(Just a side note, Corel has just acquired PSP: http://www.jasc.com/aboutjasc?)
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George46227Author Commented:
Daydreams

Thanks for the help. You are right - I did specify "freeware" .I have downloaded Irfanview and GIMP but not installed them. PSP was suggested by someone, it is shareware but has a 30 day free trial.
If PSP is not good I will try GIMP.

Thanks
George
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DaydreamsCommented:
George, I think PaintShop Pro is a good investment as it is a powerful editor with an intuitive easy-to-learn interface. You noted above that you have PaintShop Pro 4.14. If you do try/buy it make sure it is version 9, the latest version.

I would still recommend installing Irfanview as a viewer. It is small, powerful, and an excellent viewer/editor when you don't want to open PSP or some other program just for simple viewing, converting, cropping, pasting printscreens etc.
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HeadIdiotCommented:
If the GIMP ahd PS are "waaayy to heavy" there is always MicroSoft Paint...it is already on your computer!
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michaelbuddyCommented:
Irfanview is not a painting program, it's really a viewer and lets you crop and edit.  

you might try this link.  it contains a lot of free image editors, also know as paint programs or pixel editors.

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/pixelbasedfreewin/

that's for windows only, but Mac is there too.  I've used image forge and project dogwaffle.  Be aware that some of the "freeware" ones are too disabled to be worth the time.  as in you can't save to all formats.  But if you have irfanview, you can save from BMP to all other formats.  

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Sohel RanaCommented:
Hi:

I suggest you to use VCW VicMan's Photo Editor (freeware version). It includes tons of features :

Features :
http://vicman.net/vcwphoto/photo_f.htm

Main Page:
http://vicman.net/vcwphoto/

Another freeware image editor:

http://www.cursorarts.com/ca_imffw.html

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