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Disabled Starup item does not show up in Registry

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I run Windows 98SE and installed Caere Corp. OmniPage Pro LE, a cheap version that came with the Canon D1250U2F scanner.  The torment of these "limited edition" versions are constant registration reminders so that you can then be scammed to death with marketing crap.  So I disabled the ScanSoft product registration reminder with msconfig in Startup & restarted the system.  But after that there is no RUN- key or any reference to it any more in the registry, not under HKEY_CURRENT_USER nor under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, looking under the familiar Software - MS - Windows - Run, RunOnce, RunServices etc. keys.

Upon Restart, the unchecked registration reminder still appears when I run msconfig.  I repeated this now 3 times, every time the same.  It is a minor bother, and I may have misread their warning, but this may launch only 25 times before asking you to register again.  I don't like crap, hence, I may just uninstall it and get rid of it altogether if I do not get reasonable answers from ScanSoft, but the following question is of some general interest:

Is there an absolute way to MANUALLY remove an unchecked entry from Startup, and where could it be possibly found in the registry?

Thank you very much in advance.

Sincerely,
Bernard
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Question by:brnbrg
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    by:brnbrg
    I forgot to add that the same thing happened once before with Quicken Startup and Quicken Billminder, which, after I turned them off programmatically, continued to appear in Startup, no matter how often I unchecked them with msconfig and then looked for RUN- keys with regedit - I could never find those 2 either & they're stll there, unchecked, when I run msconfig and look in Startup.  That's on my 2nd PC and there i do actually see RUN- keys, but there is no value at all in them to delete.
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    Try the following - it works with HP:  Select - YOU WANT TO REGISTER.  It should give you an option to register via internet or mail.  Select MAIL.  Print out the registration and throw it away.

    Problem solved.

    OR

    Check the RUN entries in the registry for something called REMINDER.  That's always a bug!  And check scheduled tasks.  Sometimes they hide there.  Or even within the WIN.INI that runs at startup.
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    by:brnbrg
    You write:  "Check the RUN entries in the registry for something called REMINDER.  That's always a bug!" - that confuses me.  I can usually find all the Startup items in the Registry's RUN keys, and when I uncheck one of them in Startup, they show up in the RUN- keys to be deleted.  But then they are gone from Startup - and not merely sitting there, still unchecked.

    While I am grateful for any help, I'd really like to know with this question how to tidy up this relationship between Startup and the registry in general.  Isn't what I described above an absolute method to clean up unchecked entries in Startup?
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    by:brnbrg
    Strange, but now there is no more dialog box or anything to check to register - OmniPage deems the product duly registered to my computer name and echoes the serial number underneath - so, it's running fine and is not giving me any warning that I now have only 25 launches left before the product will be disabled, which is usually the case if you refuse to register.

    There is nothing in WIN.INI and now I cannot even find a remind entry in the registry under any RUN keys, even though I re-checked the entry in Startup running msconfig.

    Since OmniPage is running fine and I see no way to register now that it thinks I am duly registered, the issue comes down to my original question about how in principal to remove  Startup entry that has been unchecked, but then does not show up under a RUN- key in the registry - how do you get rid of this correctly, and I mean manually, because I had bad experience with registry cleaners that perform a whole lot of other functions I did not ask for while they ran.
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    by:brnbrg
    ANSWER:  With a little bit of reading Windows 98 Secrets, though...

    C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp

    and

    ...\Disabled StartUp Items

    contain shortcuts to desiabled StartUp items.  If there is a bug, the disabled StartUp Item still appears in ...\StartUp but is easily removed by simply deleting it from there, either using Explorer or Start -> Settings -> Taskbar & Start Menu -> Start Menu Programs -> Advanced and you see the same as in Explorer.

    StartUp is cleaned up now, but in my case, something went wrong, because I should have been able to see the unchecked remind program as a shortcut NOT in Startup, but in Disabled StartUp Items, a folder which never appeared under

    C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs

    That should not have been - but I removed the shortcut to the reminder program from the StartUp subfolder directly and now all looks and runs normally.

    Just let me know if you agree or if I missed something.
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    by:brnbrg
    Do you know why in my case the Disabled StartUp Items folder under

    C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs

    never appeared?  That seems like a bug to me - but now that I deleted the shortcuts it all runs clean.  Thank you for the tip above with registering by mail!

    Sincerely,
    Bernard
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    by:huntersvcs
    If you have individual profiles set up (multiple users) the answer might have been under

    C:\Windows\Profiles\All Users
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    by:brnbrg
    I do not have multiple users, so I am ashamed to admit that the answer was really as simple as I found it.  You know, under stress one often gets transfixed and locked mentally into a certain construct, such as that a RUN- key absolutely HAS to show up somewhere and one forgets that there is a simple shortcut entry in the Startup folder.  Sorry for asking such a stupid question - the shortcut was sitting right in it, and nothing else that was not associated properly, so thanks again.

    Sincerely,
    Bernard
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