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Primary & secondary IDE controllers disappeared after computer shut down
Hello all,
I have this problem just now. As my computer was installing some software a power failure occured and the computer was shut down. After I booted it, win 98se showed a blue message (not BSOD) about some "child" IDE controllers that are corrupt.
Anyway, Windows eventually booted but now has no CD Roms, none of the 2 that are installed.
So I went to Device Manager to check and there are 2 yellow exclamation marks on the Primary & Secondary IDE controllers (single Fifo) under the "Hard Didk COntrollers" branch.
I tried removing the parent branch and rebooting and reinstalling but that did not help at all.
Also, Win98 does not shut down anymore but rather hangs there in the "Windows is Shutting Down" screen... what gives in this case? It used to shut down OK before the power failure occured.
Please advise.
Thank-you!!
I have this problem just now. As my computer was installing some software a power failure occured and the computer was shut down. After I booted it, win 98se showed a blue message (not BSOD) about some "child" IDE controllers that are corrupt.
Anyway, Windows eventually booted but now has no CD Roms, none of the 2 that are installed.
So I went to Device Manager to check and there are 2 yellow exclamation marks on the Primary & Secondary IDE controllers (single Fifo) under the "Hard Didk COntrollers" branch.
I tried removing the parent branch and rebooting and reinstalling but that did not help at all.
Also, Win98 does not shut down anymore but rather hangs there in the "Windows is Shutting Down" screen... what gives in this case? It used to shut down OK before the power failure occured.
Please advise.
Thank-you!!
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Motherboard brand and model?
Zee
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motherboard is :
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (rev 1.04) with nForce2 chipset (by Nvidia)
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (rev 1.04) with nForce2 chipset (by Nvidia)
Worth a try:
Download these drivers and install them:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_4.27
Zee
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* "Download Accelerator" utilities should be disabled when downloading any drivers.
* Do not run virus protection software in the background while installing the drivers. This prevents the driver from configuring itself properly.
* Before installing new drivers make sure you uninstall all NVIDIA display drivers from the Windows Control Panel. Browse to the Start Menu > Windows Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and search for "NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers" or "NVIDIA Display Drivers" and select remove.
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I have installed the latest Nforce drivers which did not fix the problem.
Regarding the SFC solution that was suggested, what files apply to those IDE controllers anyway? How can I know if what I see is the correct file name?
Installing Win98se using 'bright12' advice, seems like a good thing to do, but rather drastic. I have dual boot in this computer, so if I install Win98 now, I will lose the ability to log in to WinXP after the installation.... correct?
Thanks again.
Regarding the SFC solution that was suggested, what files apply to those IDE controllers anyway? How can I know if what I see is the correct file name?
Installing Win98se using 'bright12' advice, seems like a good thing to do, but rather drastic. I have dual boot in this computer, so if I install Win98 now, I will lose the ability to log in to WinXP after the installation.... correct?
Thanks again.
Liorde,
I am not sure if it have any effects on Dual boot. Perhaps you can try to install W98 on an other Hard Disk, just to see if windows is corrupt or not.
Do you have also problems with XP with the IDE controllers?
Brigh12
I am not sure if it have any effects on Dual boot. Perhaps you can try to install W98 on an other Hard Disk, just to see if windows is corrupt or not.
Do you have also problems with XP with the IDE controllers?
Brigh12
I tried removing the parent branch and rebooting and reinstalling but that did not help at all.
Remove the Primary, Secondary, And Standard and then reboot and let windows find them again.
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Cd roms: Is there any ??? If so do the same remove the drivers and reboot the machine
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Also, Win98 does not shut down anymore but rather hangs there in the "Windows is Shutting Down" screen...
For winSE
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeatured/Win98SE/Default.asp
Remove the Primary, Secondary, And Standard and then reboot and let windows find them again.
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Cd roms: Is there any ??? If so do the same remove the drivers and reboot the machine
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Also, Win98 does not shut down anymore but rather hangs there in the "Windows is Shutting Down" screen...
For winSE
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeatured/Win98SE/Default.asp
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Hi Gonzal13
I tried what you did. WIndows does find the missing drivers and installes them from the CD ROm. After this it prompts for reboot, and after that the situation remains the same. Still no CD ROms are enabled.
Please tell me if there is another option left.
Thank-you!
I tried what you did. WIndows does find the missing drivers and installes them from the CD ROm. After this it prompts for reboot, and after that the situation remains the same. Still no CD ROms are enabled.
Please tell me if there is another option left.
Thank-you!
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Gonzal13,
If I install Win98se obn itself, do I do it in "repair" mode??
Will it destroy my current boot sectors of my dual boot system? Which means that I will then have to install XP again....
BTW,
Win98se => C
WinXP => D
please advise..
If I install Win98se obn itself, do I do it in "repair" mode??
Will it destroy my current boot sectors of my dual boot system? Which means that I will then have to install XP again....
BTW,
Win98se => C
WinXP => D
please advise..
There 'is no repair mode' with win98 only a safe mode.
You do it in the 'normal mode'
Reinstall windows over Win98 from the Windows Explorer
Open Windows in the 'Normal" mode'
Insert the Win98 CD-ROM
If the Windows install screen show up, just click the X
Open the Windows Explorer
Go to the CD ROM drive
Go to the Win98 folder
Click on setup
Reinstall Win 98 upon itself. Should take ½ hour
Reboot the machine.
The Blue screen should have disappeared
You do it in the 'normal mode'
Reinstall windows over Win98 from the Windows Explorer
Open Windows in the 'Normal" mode'
Insert the Win98 CD-ROM
If the Windows install screen show up, just click the X
Open the Windows Explorer
Go to the CD ROM drive
Go to the Win98 folder
Click on setup
Reinstall Win 98 upon itself. Should take ½ hour
Reboot the machine.
The Blue screen should have disappeared
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After this update process all the updates I have done will be set to "ground zero" right?
I will have to update the Windows again...?
I will have to update the Windows again...?
If you reinstall Windows, yes, you must update.
Zee
If you do an install of win98 over itself from the windows explorer, nothing will change.
gonzal13(joe)
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I will test your suggestion today Joe,
Thank-you all for the patience...!
Thank-you all for the patience...!
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blue_Zee Thanks for the comment
Liorde:
I would always when asked take the option of accepting the latest command etc on the HD and not revert to an earlier version
Liorde:
I would always when asked take the option of accepting the latest command etc on the HD and not revert to an earlier version
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Hello again,
I am just back from the installation and it really DID fix the problem. CD Roms are back and functioning...
The computer shuts down properly also.
Actually it did not ask me whether to replace files, just in case it interests you.
Isee that IE is still 6SP1 so does that mean that also the Win98se remain?
Please advise.
I am just back from the installation and it really DID fix the problem. CD Roms are back and functioning...
The computer shuts down properly also.
Actually it did not ask me whether to replace files, just in case it interests you.
Isee that IE is still 6SP1 so does that mean that also the Win98se remain?
Please advise.
Well done!
Win98 should be up to date, but, to be SAFE, do visit Windows Update.
Zee
Yes as mentioned nothing would change
gonzal13
gonzal13
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Thank-you for the patience!!
Liorde:
No problem.
Joe
No problem.
Joe
Bootup in Safe Mode and go to Device Manager.
Delete Primary and Secondary IDE controllers and reboot.
You may need the Windows CD or the motherboard drivers CD/floppy.
Also a possibility:
Start > Run > type SFC and press enter.
Let SFC scan your system and eventually replace corrupt files (long shot though...).
Post back your findings.
Zee