Computers can't see each other

Posted on 2004-11-07
Last Modified: 2010-04-10
Well, I'm back again with another networking problem, as I'm totally new to this whole networking thing.

Anyways, I have both my computers networked properly, I'm fairly sure. =) It's NIC to NIC using a crossover cable, and they both show LAN connected.

When I go to my Network Places, there is nothing there. And going to "workgroup computers" displays nothing as well. I have made sure that they both are in the same workgroup, and I can't figure out what else to do. I can't seem to get them to do anything (such as share folders/connection..etc) either.

I've also shut down/disabled all my running firewalls, and it still doens't show, so I guess that isn't the case.

Insight would be nice. Any questions you have about the computers, just ask. =) Thanks.
Question by:Xcist
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    by:Rok Brnot
    I have some questions

    What networkin protocol do you use?
    If it is TCP/IP can you ping computers?
    Did you set network adresses?

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    Ehm, I'm using TCP/IP, yes. As for pinging the computers, I was going to, but I'm not sure on how to do it for a network. If you give me instructions, I'll give it a go. =)

    And setting a network address, I'm guessing not, but again, how would I go about doing that?
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    by:Rok Brnot
    from your answer I can see thet you ddn't set IP adresses yet.

    go to START->Settings->Network and Dialup Connections

    select network adapter - right click on it - select properties

    select Internet protocol(TCP/IP) - properties - select Use the following IP address:

    and now you must enter some ip address and netmask (let say on computer A and on computer B)

    then go to command line and  try if you can ping:

    on computer A:

    ping (ipaddress of computer B)

    if you get respons then the network connection has been established.

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    by:Rok Brnot

    here is link to docoment where everything is explained in more details
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    Make sure on startup you are loging in to each computer with valid user and password.
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    What OS are you using? If it's W/98: you'll need to switch on/install file sharing on both PC's and right click a folder on both PC's and share it.

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    Ehm, I'm on Windows XP Pro, one with SP1, one without it.

    rbrnot, thanks for the reply. I did alll you said, and Comp1, can ping Comp2, but it seems that Comp2 times out, when trying to ping Comp1. But either way, still can't see each other after that.

    I've also read through that guide, and I believe I've done everything it says there, and still no good.

    gdplusmore, what exactly do you mean? Comp1, auto logs in, I believe. I don't have to type in anything... do I need to fix this? As for Comp2, I log in on that one.

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    by:Rok Brnot

    You mentioned that you have some kind of firewall software installed . I would recomend that you keep that disabled for now.

    go  to network properties (Start -Settings->Network and Dialup Connections

    select network adapter - right click on it - select properties) and check what components

    you have installed.

    There should be :
    Client for Microsoft networks
    File and print sharing for Microsoft networks

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    by:Rok Brnot
    one more :

    goto command line  on computer A and write:

    net view \\ipadress of computer B

    you should see what is shared on computer B

    if this works than you can do:

    net use x: \\ipadress of computer B\share

    and then you will be abel to see drive x maped in explorer
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    links to some useful articles:

    How to configure file sharing in Windows XP;en-us;304040

    About User Management and Security in Windows XP

    Windows XP Network Access

    How to use the Group Policy Editor to change default systems settings

    WinXP Pro File Sharing
    User Accounts: Password or No Password?

    Blank Password Network Access

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    Haha. rbrnot, thanks for all the help. =)

    It seems I had a hidden firewall I forgot, running on Comp1, and it was the culprit screwing things up. Anyways, it works wonders now!

    So I'm all good. Thanks for your constant help rbrnot - the points are all yours.

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    I would install the NETBUI protocol on the PC's.  It is not native to XP, but you can search Microsoft WWW site to get the files and the instructions.  I dont have the info with me, but essentialy you put two files in specific directories and then you can add the protocol.  It works very well and painlessly on small networks.

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    This is how to install netbui on an XP pc

    NetBEUI (NBF) is a non-routable protocol suitable for small networks.
    Support for this protocol in Microsoft Windows has been discontinued.
    If you are instructed by the Product Support Personnel to install this protocol
    as a temporary measure, follow the instructions below.

    Installation instructions for NetBEUI protocol on Windows XP and Windows 2002.

    * copy nbf.sys into the %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ directory
    * copy netnbf.inf into the %SYSTEMROOT%\INF\ directory
    * open network connection properties and use "Install..." button to add NetBEUI protocol

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