Gary
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Disappeared from google
Google seems to be ignoring my site. Last week I was getting 300 visitors a day this week its dropped right down and if I search Google for the terms that were coming up last week I'm nowhere to be found this week. Can anyone see why?
www.eatdrinkandsleep.com
www.eatdrinkandsleep.com
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Hi duz - to the rescue again
Is there anything I can do. Certain search terms still rank me high but other ones (or more importance) that should be ranking high are not to be seen.
I saw something in one of the searchs relating to backlinks helping to restore you .
Is there anything I can do. Certain search terms still rank me high but other ones (or more importance) that should be ranking high are not to be seen.
I saw something in one of the searchs relating to backlinks helping to restore you .
GaryC123 -
>Is there anything I can do.
I just wish that I could answer that question :(
We have a number of clients who have been sandboxed in the last few months and I have tried all kinds of techniques to extricate them. No one technique seems to work even 25% of the time and to be honest I don't think there is one. I can say that I have had limited success by introducing Adsense but even that does not work on the majority of sites I have tried.
Only the PhDs in the inner sanctum of the Googleplex have a clue what's happening and they aren't talking. So my current advice to all sandboxed sites is to carry on adding lots of backlinks and wait.....
- duz
>Is there anything I can do.
I just wish that I could answer that question :(
We have a number of clients who have been sandboxed in the last few months and I have tried all kinds of techniques to extricate them. No one technique seems to work even 25% of the time and to be honest I don't think there is one. I can say that I have had limited success by introducing Adsense but even that does not work on the majority of sites I have tried.
Only the PhDs in the inner sanctum of the Googleplex have a clue what's happening and they aren't talking. So my current advice to all sandboxed sites is to carry on adding lots of backlinks and wait.....
- duz
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Yeah that seems to be the general concensus after reading further, will it come back (eventually)? :-/
GaryC123 -
>will it come back (eventually)? :-/
I have seen quite a few sites come out of the sandbox for no apparent reason after 3+ months so the situation is not desperate just a real pain in the %^*"
- duz
>will it come back (eventually)? :-/
I have seen quite a few sites come out of the sandbox for no apparent reason after 3+ months so the situation is not desperate just a real pain in the %^*"
- duz
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Whats the advantage of Adsense? I don't want a plethora of ads that have nothing to do with the site or are in competition with it.
I'm not surprised that you're confused, since I got it backwards :) I was thinking about AdWords, not AdSense, as a cost-effective, cost-controlled means of bringing in some qualified traffic.
AdSense wouldn't be a benefit unless you were among the few that found the same benefit duz mentioned above. I hadn't heard that before, so I can't really comment beyond saying it sounds like it's worth a try. You don't need to have a plethora of ads either. You can choose a number of different sizes and configurations (even a single ad in a small box), which you could place beneath your Sponsors banner on your links page. If competitor ads appear, Google allows you to filter them out by URL.
AdSense wouldn't be a benefit unless you were among the few that found the same benefit duz mentioned above. I hadn't heard that before, so I can't really comment beyond saying it sounds like it's worth a try. You don't need to have a plethora of ads either. You can choose a number of different sizes and configurations (even a single ad in a small box), which you could place beneath your Sponsors banner on your links page. If competitor ads appear, Google allows you to filter them out by URL.
GaryC123 -
When you put Adsense up this triggers a visit from the Google mediabot which in turn seems to trigger a deep crawl the combination of which sometimes releases a sandboxed site. As I say this doesn't always happen so don't try it unless you are desperate or want to experiment.
- duz
When you put Adsense up this triggers a visit from the Google mediabot which in turn seems to trigger a deep crawl the combination of which sometimes releases a sandboxed site. As I say this doesn't always happen so don't try it unless you are desperate or want to experiment.
- duz
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@humeniuk
No money to spend on Adwords.
Signed up with Adsense so will just wait for them to come back to me and see if it works - nothing to lose at this point :o)
No money to spend on Adwords.
Signed up with Adsense so will just wait for them to come back to me and see if it works - nothing to lose at this point :o)
GaryC123 -
You only need to put up a single ad box on each page and if you put it below the fold, make the background and outline the same color as your site it should then be unobtrusive. Keep your eye on the log files for a media bot visit and monitor googlebots behaviour. Your experience can ad to our knowledge of this phenomena so please let me know the result (email address in my profile).
The very best of luck!!
- duz
You only need to put up a single ad box on each page and if you put it below the fold, make the background and outline the same color as your site it should then be unobtrusive. Keep your eye on the log files for a media bot visit and monitor googlebots behaviour. Your experience can ad to our knowledge of this phenomena so please let me know the result (email address in my profile).
The very best of luck!!
- duz
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Will do :o)
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It is weird tho, heres an example
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ardee%20clubs&meta=cr%3DcountryIE
There I am at number 1, I know theres only 645 results in total.
And heres one where only 4 days ago I was number 3
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=monkstown%20pubs&meta=
Now I'm at 96 and not even a description with the link
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ardee%20clubs&meta=cr%3DcountryIE
There I am at number 1, I know theres only 645 results in total.
And heres one where only 4 days ago I was number 3
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=monkstown%20pubs&meta=
Now I'm at 96 and not even a description with the link
Good luck, Gary. And yes, please post back here with info about how things go. Future readers of this tread will benefit from your experience.
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Small update
Been approved for Adwords but no visit from any google bot but in the past 8/9 days (kinda from the point Google stopped liking me) Yahoo, Ask Jeeves/Teoma and MSN bot visits have gone thru the roof... And visits from Alexa have gone into orbit.
Been approved for Adwords but no visit from any google bot but in the past 8/9 days (kinda from the point Google stopped liking me) Yahoo, Ask Jeeves/Teoma and MSN bot visits have gone thru the roof... And visits from Alexa have gone into orbit.
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...approved for Adsense... that is
GaryC123 -
When did you actually start showing the ads? Are they mostly PSAs?
- duz
When did you actually start showing the ads? Are they mostly PSAs?
- duz
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Put them up last night - whats PSA's?
You can see for yourself at www.eatdrinkandsleep.com
You can see for yourself at www.eatdrinkandsleep.com
GaryC123 -
PSAs = Public Service Announcements
Did you put AdSense on every page?
Expect a visit from Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) any time soon.
- duz
PSAs = Public Service Announcements
Did you put AdSense on every page?
Expect a visit from Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) any time soon.
- duz
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OK, I don't think they are, it may seem I've got thousands of pages but there is just the one page - index.asp - so the ads appear on every page and they seem to be targetted to the different areas (said Counties).
Looks good, Gary. Just a note, though - most of the links on your sitemap return:
Server object error 'ASP 0228 : 80004005'
Server.Execute Error
/index.asp, line 323
The call to Server.Execute failed while loading the page.
It seems to be pretty much anything that isn't located in Ireland (ie. Kiev, Paris, Oslo, etc.).
Server object error 'ASP 0228 : 80004005'
Server.Execute Error
/index.asp, line 323
The call to Server.Execute failed while loading the page.
It seems to be pretty much anything that isn't located in Ireland (ie. Kiev, Paris, Oslo, etc.).
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Ah f**k it, I redid the site map and they shouldn't be in there.
:)
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Just wanted to let you know that google is showing my site again, visitor numbers jumped considerably on Friday and today are looking very good. So I suppose I can't complain for being in the 'sandbox' for only 6 weeks :o)
Glad to hear it, thanks for the update.
If you search 'site:www.eatdrinkandsleep.com' on Google, you'll see that quite a bit of your site has been indexed. According to my Google tool bar, the site has a PR of 4. This doesn't mean you won't have dropped in the rankings for those search terms, it just means Google is quite aware that you are there.
However, there are a number of ways in which you could optimize your site and you could also use more incoming links.