Solved: Suse64 ver9.2 nics configured, but cant get out

Post the results of the following commands (run as route)

ifconfig

route -n

> (run as route)
> ifconfig
> route -n
I believe there is typo

Run as root
# ifconfig -a
# route -rn

> how do i select which nic to use when both avail ?
After you post the result of commands above, then I can tell you.

Wesly

rindi

Doesn't SuSE install a firewall? check its configuration.

marshalx

ASKER

yes youre right, the firewall was not set to let anything thru !
BUT, thats only half the problem. the mobo seems to need its own
onboard-ether linux driver. ive found it on the mobo cd, and got it
onto floppy, but the instructions seem difficult.
how am i supposed to "compile" it and install it into linux ?
ive never used linux before.
i will run ifconfig as soon as back on that machine. thanks :)

rindi

Id try without the other driver, first. Modern linux distros should have builtin support for most ethernet devices.

marshalx

ASKER

already tried with firewall open.
it did flickeringly get the router setup page,
but then dropped it. cant get web pages

that mobo is Abit kv8pro VIA ether controller
what is the procedure rindi for "compiling" the driver ?

marshalx

ASKER

hi blkline and wesley :)
im slowly getting used to linux, here is the Konsole screen print:

marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
marshalx@linux:~> sbin/route -rn
bash: sbin/route: No such file or directory
marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/route -rn
/sbin/route: invalid option -- r
Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>] List kernel routing tables
route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF.

route {-h|--help} [<AF>] Detailed usage syntax for specified AF.
route {-V|--version} Display version/author and exit.

-v, --verbose be verbose
-n, --numeric don't resolve names
-e, --extend display other/more information
-F, --fib display Forwarding Information Base (default)
-C, --cache display routing cache instead of FIB

<AF>=Use '-A <af>' or '--<af>'; default: inet
List of possible address families (which support routing):
inet (DARPA Internet) inet6 (IPv6) ax25 (AMPR AX.25)
netrom (AMPR NET/ROM) ipx (Novell IPX) ddp (Appletalk DDP)
x25 (CCITT X.25)
marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:5E:92:CE
inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:fe5e:92ce/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:4524 (4.4 Kb) TX bytes:3798 (3.7 Kb)
Interrupt:209 Base address:0xb000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:5261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:555920 (542.8 Kb) TX bytes:555920 (542.8 Kb)

marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:5E:92:CE
inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:fe5e:92ce/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:4524 (4.4 Kb) TX bytes:3798 (3.7 Kb)
Interrupt:209 Base address:0xb000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:5261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5261 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:555920 (542.8 Kb) TX bytes:555920 (542.8 Kb)

sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

marshalx@linux:~> /sbin/ifconfig -n
ifconfig: option `-n' not recognised.
ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
marshalx@linux:~>

i also did a siga no -net if thats any help ? tia :)

wesly_chen

> it did flickeringly get the router setup page,
eth0 is ok from "ifconfig -a", so you can ping the router?
You can remove a useless route
(as root) # route delete -net 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0

> but then dropped it. cant get web pages
Ok, please check your /etc/resolv.conf
-----
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx <====DNS IP from your ISP (do "ipconfig /all" on a Windows PC to get DNS server IP)
---
and /etc/nsswitch.conf for the following entry
-----
hosts: files dns <==== make sure "dns"
-----
Then you should be able to ping www.yahoo.com

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

hi wesly, thanks very much for your help :)

ive been fiddling with linux this morning, and report the following
(1) ping router setup/gateway/dchp 192.168.1.1 and DNS 194.168.4.100 both "unreachable"
(2) ping 192.168.1.101 ok 60ms.
(3) /sbin/route delete .... said "siodelrt not permitted"
(4) /etc/resolv.conf shows both nameservers correctly 194.168.4/8.100
(5) /etc/nsswitch.conf shows hosts files LWRES dns, and networks files DNS.
(6) gateway and dhcp is 192.168.1.1
(7) yast /hard info /shows net cards (a) bcm4306 wlan (b) vt6120 giga ether Abit (driver active)
(8) yast /net services /routing - NO default gateway shown - and wont allow me to enter one ?
(9) yast /misc /load vendor driver says "cd data does not match linux"
(10) siga no -net saved itself in /tmp/siga/ but wont then let me open it ??
since i am root, shouldnt i have access to all ?
(11) nis, ldap and kerberos "not configured yet" - do they matter ?
best wishes.

wesly_chen

> (1) ping router setup/gateway/dchp 192.168.1.1 and DNS 194.168.4.100 both "unreachable"
You can not ping the router is the main issue.
Can you take out Wireless card and try to ping router again?
If you have modem card, then take it out, too.
The IRQ assignment for PCI card have some issue with Linux. Take out the un-used PCI card when you have problem.

Do
# dmesg | grep err
to see if there is any error releted network. (post the result)

The other case is your router doesn't response "ping" on 192.168.1.1.

> (3) /sbin/route delete .... said "siodelrt not permitted"
Need to be "root". I've tested the command without problem.

> (5) /etc/nsswitch.conf shows hosts files LWRES dns, and networks files DNS.
Please change to "hosts: files dns", take out "LWRES".

> (6) gateway and dhcp is 192.168.1.1
> (8) yast /net services /routing - NO default gateway shown - and wont allow me to enter one ?
You use DHCP, so default gateway is assigned by your DHCP server.

> (7) yast /hard info /shows net cards (a) bcm4306 wlan (b) vt6120 giga ether Abit (driver active)
Take out the wireless card for now.

> (11) nis, ldap and kerberos "not configured yet" - do they matter ?
Those are not related.

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

***ok wes, ive taken out the wireless card and the modem,
and also done a "repair" installation - supposedly without ACPI.
but how to check that acpi is disabled ?

finally have got root control now, but still cant ping the router 192.168.1.1

linux:~ # dmesg | grep err
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1e, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 0, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 1b, key = 2, asc = 3a, ascq = 0
powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
linux:~ #

***took LWRES out of /etc/nsswitch.conf so hosts: files dns
also /etc/sysconfig/sysctl ip_forward = yes
and the /sbin/route delete -net 169.254.0.0 worked this time

do you think the Abit mobo needs a special driver ?
ive got one on the Abit CD, but it apparently needs "compiling"

wesly_chen

Hi,

> do you think the Abit mobo needs a special driver ?
Is the NIC integrated on Abit motherboard?
Could you also do
# dmesg | grep -i eth0
# lsmod

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

***yes NIC is part of Abit KV8pro
there is a linux driver on the mobo CD,
a .tgz containing 20 files, which ive unzipped into
/tmp/ but the install.txt says i have to "compile" them
and move to sysconfig, but i dont know how to "compile" etc.
will do the dmesg -i etc later today, thanks wes.

rindi

can you give us a listing of those files?

marshalx

ASKER

depend, kcompat, makefile, velocity, velocity_dbq, velocity_mac, velocity_mii, velocity_proc, velocity_vmns, velocity_wol, vmns_drv, depend.mak, linux, velocity_cfg, velocity_desc, velocity_main, velocity_proc_C, velocity_stats, velocity_vmns_H, velocity_wol_H

18 of them seem to be text or script files type "C" or "H" whatever that means.
only MAKEFILE looks like it might do something, will it automatically compile itself into sysconfig ?

is it really this much trouble just to get a driver into linux ? or am i doing it wrong ?
how do you normally put drivers in ? the mobo cd is rejected as "non-linux data".

rindi

do the following in the directory where you have those files from a shell:

make
make install

Then post the new files you get.

marshalx

ASKER

hi wes & rindi; heres the latest on that linux
(1) dmesg | grep -i eth0 showed via "velocity" chip 00.50.8d.5e.92.ce 100mps full duplex no ipv6
(2)hwinfo --network_ctrl showed driver = "via-velocity" status ACTIVE - looks like the driver is ok ?
[ so i havent done the make / make install ]

(3)dhclient_modify_resolv_conf = yes
(4)ip_dynip = yes
(5)ip_forward = yes

(6)169.254.0.0 reappeared after i deleted it ?
(7) ping 192.168.1.101 ok
(8) ping 192.168.1.1 "unreachable"

(9)etc/resolv.conf dns 194.168.4/8.100 both shown ok
(10)lsmod follows: does anything make sense yet ? many thanks :)

linux:~ # dmesg | grep -i eth0
eth0: VIA Networking Velocity Family Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
eth0: Ethernet Address: 00:50:8D:5E:92:CE
eth0: Link autonegation speed 100M bps full duplex
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
linux:~ # lsmod
Module Size Used by
floppy 63728 0
usbserial 32240 0
parport_pc 41024 1
lp 12136 0
parport 45068 2 parport_pc,lp
freq_table 5000 0
edd 11344 0
processor 29628 0
snd_pcm_oss 63912 0
snd_mixer_oss 21120 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 10816 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 9088 0
snd_emux_synth 42240 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 8192 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_event 9088 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi
snd_seq_midi_emul 9728 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq 60864 5 snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi_emul
snd_ioctl32 18432 0
snd_via82xx 30180 0
snd_mpu401_uart 8576 1 snd_via82xx
snd_emu10k1 95144 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 27812 4 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1
snd_seq_device 10128 6 snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 81952 2 snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 110220 5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ioctl32,snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 26632 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 11664 3 snd_via82xx,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 6016 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 10888 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd 67336 20 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq,snd_ioctl32,snd_via82xx,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 10912 1 snd
ipv6 264096 15
joydev 11264 0
af_packet 23692 2
sg 40248 0
st 40612 0
sr_mod 18084 0
usb_storage 69184 0
usblp 13952 0
ehci_hcd 30852 0
uhci_hcd 31776 0
ohci1394 33796 0
ieee1394 117592 1 ohci1394
emu10k1_gp 4480 0
gameport 4992 2 snd_via82xx,emu10k1_gp
evdev 10752 0
subfs 8960 2
nls_utf8 2560 4
ntfs 90496 4
dm_mod 58840 0
usbcore 122368 7 usbserial,usb_storage,usblp,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
via_velocity 33696 0
crc_ccitt 2560 1 via_velocity
reiserfs 244848 1
sata_via 8836 0
libata 46856 1 sata_via
sd_mod 18072 0
scsi_mod 130560 6 sg,st,sr_mod,usb_storage,libata,sd_mod
linux:~ #

marshalx

ASKER

***theres one bit of odd behaviour :
when konqueror first tries to open the router setup page 192.168.1.1
it actually got it ! so i put in the password for the router
but then after a long time (1 minute) it then said error and gave up.
cant get yahoo at all.

seems to be very sluggish. how could it have got the router password page ?

wesly_chen

> (7) ping 192.168.1.101 ok
> (8) ping 192.168.1.1 "unreachable"
It sounds like network connection still not up.
Could you provide "ifconfig eth0"?
Besides, change the network cable and network switch port. Do you see the switch port blinking when you do "ping 192.168.1.1"?

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

***that same machine running XP *does* work,
so that means the mobo/ether/cable/router are ok.

yes the switch does blink, but it does most of the time,
so dont know it was responding to ping.

***maybe i didnt read the ping results properly:
ping 192.168.1.1 sent one stream in 1.2ms - so supposedly ok,
or it wouldnt say 1.2ms ? but then it paused for a long time
and switched itself to ping 192.168.1.101 repeatedly "unreachable"

linux:~ # ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8D:5E:92:CE
inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::250:8dff:fe5e:92ce/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:62 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:7868 (7.6 Kb) TX bytes:5343 (5.2 Kb)
Interrupt:169 Base address:0xac00

linux:~ #

wesly_chen

Do you have modem on that machine? If yes, then can you pull out since Linux kernel doesn't handle well IRQ with modem?

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

***modem and wlan card already took out - like you advised last time.
also when i did a "repair" installation, it gave option "without ACPI",
so i did that one, since i heard acpi interferes with irqs somehow.

wesly_chen

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21256869/Help-GRUB-has-GRABBED-my-MBR-i-think.html
**marshalx
SUSE9.2 not liking the LAN chip on the ABIT kv8pro.
so ive changed the whole mobo to MSI k8tneo, and suse now gets thru eth0 ok.

The Kv8pro mobo has Gigabit NIC chip onboard. It probably needs the special Linux driver.

You can close this question and ask for a point refund.
https://www.experts-exchange.com/Community_Support/

Wesly

marshalx

ASKER

***still not clear WHICH special driver it needs.
the VIAarena site seems to suggest the "southbridge (vt 8237) needs enabling" on the ABIT kv8pro,
but then offers a LINUX file containing a seemingly old /irrelevant "via RHINE driver"
And anyway the LAN chip is a vt 6122, so are they saying the vt 8237 needs a driver AS WELL ?

the MSI k8tneo uses the same vt 8237 but a DIFFERENT "Realtek 8110s LAN chip" (which suse gets thru)

***dont need a refund Wesly :) you did a lot to help !

marshalx

ASKER

***great news Wesly ive found a brilliantly simple solution :
i chucked in an old Realtek PCI 10$ card and deleted the ABIT onboard eth0
and now look whats happened - im talking to you on suse64 :)

this question had better be closed now, and very many thanks for your assistances.

how can i award you the points despite we still didnt solve the problem directly ?
(in other words which "accepted answer" should i click ?)