Cyrillic Problem in Outlook 2003 Pro

Hello people:

A funny thing is happening in my Outlook 2K3 Pro. To be exact, when I try a new message in Cyrillic, Outlook lets me write in Cyrillic in the body of the message no problem, but I CANNOT put anything in Cyrillic in the Subject Line. Shifting b/w ENG and RUS key-b layout doesn't help at all, and my settings in Fonts and International Fonts and Default Fonts in Outlook Options are all Cyrillic.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
SlavyanAsked:
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sunray_2003Commented:
What happens when you do copy the text that you have written in the body of the message and paste it in the subject..

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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Hi,
I get ???????? marks instead of text.
Thanks for responding to this. I've been waiting for someone to reply for more than 1 week by now, kind frustrating response time.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

what happens when you type in the TO field..
can you copy and paste some email address or some text from the body of the message and put in the TO field aswell and check ?

Are you using Word as email editor and if yes , can you disable it and check if you can type fine in the body of the message ?

Have you checked that you have got the latest updates for your office 2003
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
I can type fine in English in ANY field.
When typing in Cyrillic in ANY field I get ???? marks, same happens when I try copying Cyrillic in ANY field.
Yes, I used Word as email & RTF editor. I disabled it, restarted Outlook, tried typing and pasting - same result.
My Outlook is totally updated.
Any more ideas?
Thanks.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

may be i am not clear here.

If you have Cyrillic font , you can type in that font in the body of the message ONLY , right ?
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Correct (in Outlook)
I have no problem working with Cyrillic in any other application (Excel, Word, PPoint, etc.)
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sunray_2003Commented:
Did you install this font seperately ?

I donot see this font in my OL 2002, well may be it would be in OL 2003 (which you have) ..

Not sure if this can be done atall. I donot know .. Do you know anyone who have worked on this font in OL ?

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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
IT IS a regular font (Times New Roman) that I use for Cyrillic. I don't have special fonts or downloaded any.
What do you mean by "I donot see this font in my OL 2002, well may be it would be in OL 2003 (which you have) .. "? What are you looking for?
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

Can you try to use this font in Outlook express and check

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/oe_e.htm
read from here : Setup for sending Russian messages
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
But I do not use O.Express...
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
If you check the very 1st post here I use MS Outlook 2003 Pro, NOT Outlook Express.
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sunray_2003Commented:
hmm. i thought cyrillic to be a font but i realize that is russian encoding..

let me check if there are any instructions of how to do that for Outlook.

I gave you outlook express example to see if the instructions given in that link would work in OE and if it does, similar technique can be adapted for Outlook
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sunray_2003Commented:
Check this to make sure you have done all these correctly.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/o2k_e.htm

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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Hmm, Cyrillic stands for encoding, not font. I use Cyrillic (for Windows) encoding.
I'll check the site.
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
I think the author of that article is wrong in principle as he says "no Russian is allowed/can be used in Subject Line in Outlook...". But he's instructing on Outlook 2K & 2002/XP.
Outlook 2003 is quite different and I am sure one CAN use Cyrillic in Subject as I did it before, then I reinstalled WinXP clean for another reason and Outlook kinda lost this function though I reinstalled MS Office 2003 Pro in FULL as before.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

If you have done in OL 2003 before , there is no reason why it should not if all settings are correct.

After installing XP clean, have you fully updated XP , may be even have windows xp SP2 ?
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
My Office and XP are FULLY up to date (SP2 incl.)
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sunray_2003Commented:
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
The article has nothign to do with special fields in Outlook (To, Subject, CC), just the body of messages.
I already use auto-encoding (it's enabled) and my preferred encoding is Cyrillic for Windows which is supported acc . to that table there.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

I am hitting the wall here with respect to giving more suggestions..

DId this all occur after reinstalling windows xp ?

Are you using any custom form to compose a message or it is the usual form to compose a new message ?

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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Sunray:

It looks like it occured after the XP reinstall, yes.
No, I use just the usual form to compose new messages.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slavyan,

When you previously had windows xp , did you start office with office 2003 ie in this case outlook 2003 or
you changed between previous outlook version to 2003.

Did you import a previous version PST file into outlook 2003 ?
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
I started Outlook 2K3 Pro from scratch as this was my new computer at that moment. Before I got O 2K3 I used O.E. 6 for a month or so; I had used Outlook 2000 on my old machine, but I didn't import or transfer my mail files from previous Outlook.
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sunray_2003Commented:
I guess it have hit the wall twice here. Let me ask some experts here to look at this.. hang on
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Karen FalandaysTraining SpecialistCommented:
Wow, Sunray gave you a lot of time, but we have one more thing for you to try. You need to change you default mail format to html or rich text. Cyrillic doesn't like plain text format. If this does not solve the issue, you will need to completely uninstall and reinstall Outlook.
     Good luck,
Karen
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sunray_2003Commented:
Thanks Karen for stopping by..

I am not sure but does changing the format of email , change what he types in the TO , CC and subject field.
I am sure you would have seen that he can type in cyrillic in the body of the message but NOT in the above fields ..

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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Karen:
Before Sunray responded for the first time I had used HTML as my mail format and Word as email editor. Then Sunray recommended to take it off: I took Word off and switched to RTF - nothing happened.
I don't feel like reinstalling the whole Outlook just for this, guys, not worth it and there's no guarantee it will work after reinstall as the whole problem occured AFTER I reinstalled XP.
So I guess we are smack into the wall then.
Thanks everyone.
S.
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sunray_2003Commented:
S,

Not sure if you have tested all these possibilities

a) With word turned ON as default email editor and testing email formats , plain text , Rich text and HTML

b) With word turned OFF as default email editor and testing email formats, plain text, Rich text and HTML

I bet this could be more of something to do with windows XP than outlook. May be I am wrong.

I would also suggest you to create a new user account in XP , open outlook in that and do all the configurations you have done earlier and check there
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Sunray:
We've done a) and b)
I'll try a new account in Xp though.
I'll let you know.
Thanks.
S.
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stefriCommented:
stopping by....
Tools/options/Mail Format/International Options/
did you try to play with hte different cyrillic avalable there ?
Stefri
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mark-waCommented:
Slavyan,

I hope you haven't given up yet.  I would like to try and help with this one if I can.  I have currently just finished reading your conversations with Sunray and Kfalandays and will now take some time to research this.  I will get back with what I find.  Thanks.

Mark
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sunray_2003Commented:
Thanks guys. Appreciate it
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mark-waCommented:
Slavyan,

Please make sure the keyboard is set back to Russian, then try the following:


a) Go to the Regional & Language Options in the Control Panel
b) In the Advanced tab, select Russian for 'Language for non-Unicode programs'
c) Check 'Apply all settings to the current user account and to the default user
profile'

This requires the computer to reboot.  Once rebooted, please test and post your results.

No problem Sunray.  Great job sticking with this one!  It's a tough one.

Mark
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SlavyanAuthor Commented:
Mark:
Bull's eye!
Works fine in RTF, Plain or HTML with or w/o Word.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks everyone.
S.
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sunray_2003Commented:
Slayvan,  Glad you got the problem fixed.

Mark, Hats off to you. That was excellant suggestion.

Karen, I am not sure what other TAs that I participate in has got teamwork involved but I am sure some does. My aim is Outlook should be one of them. It would be nice to see all the top notch experts here get a Genius certificate like MS Access.
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mark-waCommented:
Glad to have helped!

Mark
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