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no booting beeps computer has died

hi
my pc has died

i have been having a few preblems lately

last week windows kept hanging onstart up
in safe mode it would get tothe mup.sys driver and hang

couldnt reinstall windows as when it got to the screen that says 'starting windows' it would hang up again

i thought it may be a hdrvie problem so i went out and got a new one

any today exactly the same thing has happened

windows wont boot stopping just after the mup.sys driver loads (as stated on the safe mode boot screen)

i thought it might be memory

so i took all the mem out and and tried each one in turn
i then tried a completely new mem module

nothing happened

now i am not even getting a beep when i turn my pc on
i also noticed when i first opened the pc i noticed that the cpu was quite warm
when i look at the temp on the front panel it read about 50c


>> about 6 months ago on of the IDE slots (the primary one) went
i dont know why

could be baord be knackered or is it csomething easier to sort out?

i should say that before last week everything was running fine


here are my specs

amd cpu 1600 XP
756g ram
120 hd
mobo is a kinetz 7e
windows xp + sp2
geforce 4 graphs card


any help would be welcomed
thanks
liseperu
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techsupport101Commented:
These problems all point out to one problem, a defective motherboard. When something is defective in a system,
such as the memory modules, video card, etc. the motherboard speaker gives out beeps to help you identify the
cause of the problem. When you say you have begun not to hear anymore signals, that means its a fault on
behalf of the mothboard. Also, since you say you've swapped the ram and the harrdrive and still no avail, it
still point to the motherboard. I doubut it would be a fault on the power supply, but if you replace the power
supply and still the same problems, the motherboard is faulty and needs to be replaced.
Good Luck!
-techsupport_[101]
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liseperuAuthor Commented:
hi
i should also point out that
the motherboard light came on

the fans are turning
the h-drive/cd lights are on

just no beeps and no boot screen


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liseperuAuthor Commented:
you know what i replaced the power supply
about 6 months ago

ok... so if i dont get any arguments to the fact the mobo is faulty

would any body be able to point me to a good motherboard?

based on my specs above?

thanks
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techsupport101Commented:
The best motherboard for an Athlon/Duron Socket A solution is the ASUS-A7N8X-DX.
This motherboad is based on the Nforce 2 Chipset, with 2 built-in ethernet ports,
5.1 Surround Sound, etc. :http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htm.
This motherboard supports overclocking, Dual Channel DDR., etc. This motherboard is
available for about $120 : http://store.yahoo.com/cyberpowerwholesale/a7n8xdx.html ,
this motherboard will perform and last a very long time.
Here are some of the reviews that claim this is one of the best motherboards:
(This board is alike to the A7N8X but comes with more features)
http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzk0

-Good Luck! Hope this helped!
techsupport_[101]
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liseperuAuthor Commented:
hi and thanks

i was wondering how the motherboard could effect the loading of software?
i understand it on the first h-drive

but when i replced it it worked fine

then a week later it goes silly again

if you have 5 mins i would really appreciate abit of an insight in the mystery world of computers

thanks
s
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techsupport101Commented:
A motherboard has a big influence on the performance of the computer. A motherboard controls the
CPU Speed, memory speed, etc. Different motherboards with different chipsets outperform other
motherboards with other chipsets. Some motherboards allow faster FSBs (Front Side Busses) than
others and support different types of CPUs. The motherboards plays a key role in the loading of software
because depening on the speed of the FSB, and CPU that the motherboard supports, the faster the application
will load and run. The harddrive has major impact of how computers run. I think the problem
with your harddrive is that, if you have the internet, your computer may be accumulating spyware, and adaware.
These can effect the performance of the computer. Also, you should Defrag, (Defragment) your harddrive once
in a while to re-organize all the files on your hd. This should help your computer maintain its speeds.
-techsupport_[101]
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kkrishkCommented:
It also depends on which OS you are using on the system. I assume that you are using an OS provided by Microsoft. There are +ses and -ses to all operating systems. But in terms of user-friendliness, manageability, scalability, upgradability and Applications supported, it is safer to get a Microsoft provided operating system. With Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows XP, Microsoft has introduced a feature called "Driver Signing" which requires hardware to be tested and signed (certified) by Microsoft. If your hardware has been signed by Microsoft, it greatly minimizes chances of incompatibility and below par performance from a hardware and drivers viewpoint. It would also be good to check for FlashBIOS updates from the Motherboard manufacturer (and not the maker of the chipset alone such as AMD). This is becauses it is possible that by the time the Motherboard has reached you, it has been a few months since it came out of the factory. Make sure that you are using the correct IDE cables (you have the old plain IDE cables with 40 wires and the EIDE cables with 80 wires) which can play a significant role in the performance of the hard drive. There are also a few other things such as rubber bands which are used to hold the cables together. These add capacitance and hence slow down performance. You should use the plastic belts instead.

The best thing to do after a motherboard is replaced is to do a clean install of the OS as some files or drivers might conflict once the new devices are detected. This will enable all the hardware to be detected correctly and the appropriate drivers will be loaded correctly. I know that this is a very tedious thing to do, but I have learnt that the hard way.
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bytes00Commented:
another 1 thing.. if your mother board.. try to locate the capasitor / transistor looks like below
http://www.motherboardrepair.com/images/msi-withbadcaps.jpg
(position : left, at 9 o'clock position)

u shold get a repair or replacement..

For more info read the below :
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Feb/gee20030207018535.htm

nowadays.. as per my understanding, all clone pc has their life-lenght around 1-3 years, and after tht, the capasitor of the board will be leaking of alkaline, and when the alkaline is drained out, thus making the board failure.

alkaline in capasitor act as a media to transfer ions from positive side to negative side.
-john

(similar problem : http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Q_21219377.html#12676901 )

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liseperuAuthor Commented:
hi
i have closed this question
thanks for all your help

i installed all my new stuff

motherboard , cpu, ram

and i am still having the mup.sys error
but i have started a new thread only about that mup.sys question

if you think you can help then please go here

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_21221382.html

thanks again
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