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IBM NetVista 6270-T5U Cannot set boot sequence

NetVista will not load Windows 2000.  It get about 50% of the way through the Windows load and then reboots itself.  This is not the problem but it shows that the PC is functional.  Client needs to return the old HDD for destruction anyhow.

My problem is that I cannot BOOT from anything but the HDD.  Opening the CMOS settings using F1 at boot does not provide a way to change the boot sequence.  I know that this sounds NUTS, but I have noticed that many others, with experience, are having the same issue.  HOW do you install an OS on a PC with no way to change the Boot Sequence?

QUESTION:  HOW DO I CHANGE THE BOOT SEQUENCE ON THIS NETVISTA?  (easy points for the guy who knows the answer ;-) )
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http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0&uid=psg1MIGR-4XVQAL&loc=en_US
Make sure the boot sequence in the System Configuration Utility is correct. For most troubleshooting, the boot sequence should be:


Diskette drive (if installed)
CD-ROM (if installed)
Hard disk drive 0


If any installed bootable device, such as the hard disk drive, is not shown in the list of devices to select from, that device was not recognized by the BIOS during the POST. This condition must be corrected. Proceed to the appropriate troubleshooting document.


Disable any boot to network setting to make sure the Preboot eXecution Environment (PXE) is not trying to boot. PXE enables remote booting and system access before the computer can boot to a local operating system. If using an optional network adapter, refer to the owners manual for directions on how to change configuration settings. Test the system to see if the problem is corrected, and continue to the next step if the problem is not corrected.

Refer to IBM Networking Support for information on network adapters.

Refer to the Hardware Maintenance Manual for directions on how to change the boot sequence.


the harware manual is a link, click on it
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Hello frozenJim =)

Many people face this issue as its noe easy to get to the boot sequence in a NetVista system :)
but this guy made it to go there >> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21183116/Password-BIOS-problem-with-IBM-netvista-6579-K9U.html
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Would a bootable floppy with CDROM support do the trick?

go here,
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
and download the exe to make a bootable floppy with CD support on a working pc.
[personally, I like the W98 SE Custom No Ramdrive one.]

insert a blank floppy, and double-click the downloaded file.
It will install some files to the disk.

Take the disk to the dead pc and boot from it.
watch as it boots, and it will allow access to the CDROM drives under a letter, normally D:
type D:

Insert the w2k cdrom and type SETUP
it should now start the installation.
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Thanks all,  but I'm still stuck.  The following four points will help you in troubleshooting:

1).  I suppose that I should have mentioned that I would like the CD to actually BOOT.  So using a boot floppy is not a solution.  The many others experiencing the same problem have settled for a solution that involves using a boot floppy and, thus, installation of Windows 2000.  But this is not the solution for someone who needs a CD to boot.  Many tools today require a bootable CD, Windows XP itself requires a bootable CD for installation.  

2).  I am not mistaken, in the standard NetVista setup menu there is NO way to change the boot sequence (unless it is very cleverly hidden).

3).  There are many posts by many users of this Model of IBM on this topic on many boards, but no answers that work.  And  have found NOTHING on the IBM site describing this situation.

4).  I have tried using a variety of CD drives that are known to be bootable.  It is not the CD drive itself that is the problem.

This is a question that requires an answer from someone who KNOWS the question and the answer.   Common sense and conventional wisdom will not work here.

I have removed the battery and power cable and then rebooted after a one minute wait, but still no advanced CMOS setup menu.

I have upgraded the BIOS.

If you have a NetVista 6270-T5U then I would like to know if YOU are able to change your boot sequence to use the CD-Rom as a boot device.  It would be good to know if we are ALL having the same problem.  Please provide your BIOS version if you know it....

This is a unique IBM/NETVISTA problem.  If you know the answer, you KNOW that you know the answer.  It's a wierd one.

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>>Windows XP itself requires a bootable CD for installation.  
No it doesn't it can be installed from a w98 boot floppy, in dos
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q307848

and here is the manual for that machine
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/netvista/06p1789.pdf
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In the end, the problem was hardware error.  Sorry guys.

IBM is aware of the fact that on many of their Motherboards the Electrolytic Capacitors are junk.  When they blow, you end up with all kinds of wonkiness.  

The first link that goes into this is http://www.thenetworkadministrator.com/ibmrecall.htm.  It is not 100% accurate - particularly where he says that the capacitors with the "K" stamp are the bad ones while the ones with the "+" are the good.  Both types of capacitors will blow... and IBM will replace the Motherboard even if it is 10 years out of warranty because they did not recall the Motherboard when they found out about the flaw.

A better page - technically - is here: http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_30328/article.html.

The IBM Netvista is fine now that IBM sent me the new motherboard.
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