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new terminal licensing server. moving from an old one to a new one

hey all,
i am new to terminal server licensing and the whole deal with licenses.

i have one win2k terminal server[app mode] and one win2k terminal licensing server and i want to replace the licensing server[hostname: ipserve] because its old and dying. i just built a new win2k server[hostname: nadns] and promoted it without a problem and installed the licensing services(not activated yet cuz i dont know the type of licenses i have).

i dont know what type of licenses we have here, i took over the position for some1 who had left and no1 else here knows anything.

question 1:
when i am trying to activate terminal server licensing on nadns, i get to a wizard and this dialog box where im stumped. it asks me for the "specifiy the program under which you purchase licenses". and it gives me 3 options:
-microsoft select or microsoft enterprise agreement
-microsoft open license program
-other

i dont know which one to pick. i work for a non profit org, but i dont know if that helps you guys or not. is there anyway i can find out what type of license agreement i am using ? maybe looking on ipserve ?

question 2:
after i get nadns activated, how do i go about transferring the licenses from ipserve to nadns ? dont i have to call the microsoft clearing house?

if you need anymore info please let me know :)
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adonis1976

have u used Lsview.exe in the Windows 2000 resource kit CD to view the licensing on the existing server?
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i just installed lsview and all it does is list ipserve with today's date and "type" is "domain". what can i do with this ??
Can you pls run Lsreport.exe and tell me what it says?
=====================================================
C:\temp>lsreport serverlist

Error accessing keypacks on serverlist.
The network path was not found.

:(
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lsreport -t :
Server      License ID      Keypack ID      Client      User      Start      End      Issue Type      License Type      HardwareID
nadns01.nish.org      2      4      HELPDESK      pzarbo      02.26.05      05.27.05      Temporary      A02-5.00-EX      
=====================================================

do i even need a licensing server? i have a 2000 terminal server in app mode for the helpdesk and thats it. no 2003 terminal servers. 2k/xp clients can terminal server into a 2k terminal server without the need for licenses right? they get temporary license i thought. <shrug>  that may all be wrong but tell me what else you need

thanks for your help

ok did you run the lsreport on ur new server? it says, the license type is temporary so that is going to expire in another 90 days by default i guess. run the same on ur exisiting terminal server i guess it is ipserve.

and no you don't need to have a separate licensing server. your windows 2000 DC should that for you. as long as you have enough CALS for the terminal server, you shouldn't have any problem.

One more thing aboug the temp licenses. If the T-server is setup in a server mode, only 2 remote sessions are supported, then you dont need to buy a license or rather the clients get temp license. If there are more than 2 remote clients at a time, you need to be under app mode(as you are) and the clients need CALs. So u need to buy them or transfer them from your old server. After you transfer your licenses, the Keypack ID will change showing your licensing.

Sorry, I'm not very good in explaining.. let me know if you need more information.
i can't find lsreport.exe for win 2k server. its annoying. i have the 2003 resourcekit on my xp client(this computer here) and it runs but it wont run on the 2k server.i just ran lsreport and this is what i get:

Server      License ID      Keypack ID      Client      User      Start      End      Issue Type      License Type      HardwareID
ip-serv-natl.nish.org      4      2      CTG-EM01      14858      09.06.01      No Expiration      Active      A02-5.00-EX      
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ip-serv-natl.nish.org      7      2      CTG-HELPDESK1      Administrator      09.18.01      No Expiration      Active      A02-5.00-EX      
ip-serv-natl.nish.org      8      2      CTG-HELPDESK2      14858      09.25.01      No Expiration      Active      A02-5.00-EX      
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nadns01.nish.org      2      4      HELPDESK      pzarbo      02.26.05      05.27.05      Temporary      A02-5.00-EX      

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this is what my goal is. i need to have a win2k terminal server in app mode for the helpdesk. they use 2k/xp clients, so i dont know if i need to buy licenses for them, they have cals already iwth their os's right?
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i can't really turn off ipserve, because it runs some other services we need. but can i deactivate the licensing service? then reactivate the licensing service?

what are the steps that i go through to move the licenses(or whatever is on ipserve) to nadns? do i have to call microsoft's clearing house? what information do i need to prepare for that phone call?

i really want to get rid of ipserve, so i want to do anything and everything to get it out of the door.