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I fitted a Belkin F5U508EA Hi-Speed USB 2.0 / FireWire PCI Card, it has 3 USB 2.0 ports (1 Internal) and 2 FireWire ports (1 Internal).
I connected my Viking 6 in 1 Card Reader to the USB 2.0 port on the card and my Broadband Modem and Scanner to the two original USB 1.0 ports on the computer.
The computer would not shut down, it would go through the shut down procedure but when it should of switched off it rebooted again. I changed the Scanner and the Card Reader USB connections around and the computer switched off ok.
I have two questions that I hope you can help me with. The Broadband Modem sometimes will not light up (both lights out) when I boot the computer up, and sometimes both the lights go when using it, to cure this I remove the USB plug from the modem and then refit it, then it works ok (Broadband provider Tiscali; Modem type Sagem). Do you think this is something to do with the Card Reader being connected to one of the two original USB ports with the Modem in the other? Because it gave trouble when it was connected to the Belkin card.
The second question is about the Belkin USB/FireWire card, on the card itself there are 2 internal ports USB and FireWire between these ports there is a third socket which looks like a power supply connection, there is nothing in the instructions to say what to do with this socket, does anybody know? I have not connected anything to it. Operating system XP Pro, computer 3 years old. Thanks for any help.
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by:mwnnj
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hi Tommy,
about your second question:
yes,indeed this is an internal power connector ,,,if you want to attach usb-hdds or other usb devices which need the current from the usb port ,then this connector comes in help,,read this in the pdf-manual for your very good pci adapter card:
http://web.belkin.com/support/download/files/F5U508ea_all.pdf


regarding the first question:
a broadband modem can't work properly at a usb 1.0 port ,cuz the usb 1.0 give sonly 1.5 Mbps and you like to use a modem that needs 10/100 Mbps standart,move the modem to the usb 2.0 at the pci controller card,,,try to use the internal power connector on the pci usb card ,,,i think this will solve the power issue problems and the initialisation problems with the modem,,,for to do this take the longest power cable with 4-pin molex connector or go and by a cheap y- 4-pin molex conector enlargment cable such as:
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=294978&pfp=XSELLPROD&xsfrom=50016721&xsdesc=Case+Cooling+Fan+(4+pin+-+80mm)



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by:TommyTooter
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Hi mwnnj
I have carried out your suggestions; I connected a Molex power connector to the Belkin card that was floating about inside the computer and connected the Sagem Modem to one of its USB 2.0 sockets. The Card Reader and Scanner I connected to the 2 original USB 1.0 sockets. I have tested it for 2 days and the Modem has worked perfectly without switching off so I think you have cured that fault. The only problem is that the computer will not shut down, it goes through the shut down procedure but when it should switch itself off it reboots again and I have to turn it off before it fires up again, this didn’t happen before, any ideas? I have also looked at the pdf manual but I am unable to find any mention of the power connection perhaps you can tell exactly were in the manual it gives this information? Thanks: Tommy
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by:mwnnj
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hi Tommy ,
i'm glad that the initialisation problems are at least fixed,,,
regarding the shutdown/restart problem :
i'm not 100% sure but ,you know that there is a feature for many net cards(i'm speaking at this point only about net-cards) that is called "wake up on lan"
try to chack up your BIOS settings and disable all kind of such wake ups:wake up on modem ,wake up on lan ,,,
cuz i don't know what your provider for internet is ,but the most of the dsl providers are using a trick to check ip their registered users and send repeatly short signals only to check up, "if you are there";if you have a lan on wake up this should cause your pc to start up-this is at one side,,,,

another reason could be: Disabling the “restart on system failure”:
http://www.compphix.com/sdownrstarttshoot.html

also :
why dont you use the system tool shutdown:
start>run>shutdown -s or better
start>run>-f -s -t 10 causes  to force shutdown the system after 10 seconds

other good tool for shutdown is the SYsinternals psshutdown:
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/psshutdown.shtml

and see a how to:
http://ask-leo.com/is_there_a_way_to_shutdown_my_headless_windows_xp_pro_machine_remotely.html

not bad also to check out for spyware or other malicious programs;use:spybot s&d,ad-aware;winpatrol;pestpatrol(evaluation),spysweeper,antivirus scanner

additional links:
http://www.theeldergeek.com/shutdown_issues_in_xp.htm
http://www.markusjansson.net/exp.html
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_restart.htm
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/utilities.shtml
http://www.petri.co.il/quickly_abort_shut_down_commands_on_xp_2003.htm
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by:TommyTooter
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There is just one thing I forgot to mention if I connect the Modem to the old USB 1.0 port and the Scanner to the new USB 2.0 card port the computer turns off ok. My ISP provider is Tiscali. Might it be something to do with the power supply I connected to the card?
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by:mwnnj
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i'm quite sure ,ok if the system works ok then test it for couple of days if you experience problems take a try to one of the other suggestions in my second posting,,,
it's a power issue for sure,just attach newly both devices on usb 2 and the older on usb 1 also check what kind of devices needs more power ,i think the scanner needs more power than the modem

Good luck !


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by:TommyTooter
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I have purchased a new Freecom CD Rewriter and Multi Card Reader combined and connected it to the internal USB connection on the Belkin F5U508EA Hi-Speed USB 2.0 / FireWire PCI Card and the Scanner and Broadband Modem to the two external ports on the same card so all of the devices are connected to the new USB 2.0 card, I will let you know how I get on.
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OK!Take your time and good luck!

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by:TommyTooter
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Hi mwnnj
     Everything seems to be working ok now, the Broadband input light goes out from time to time I think that is just a poor phone line, and I can put up with that. I will give you the points. Thanks Tommy
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by:mwnnj
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Hi TommyTooter,
i'm glad you solved the problem!It could be you 're right about the phone line,if you wish you can make a call to their technical support and ask there ,what's going on.And if something goes unstable with your system you can update the topic for sure,i'll try to answer to you as soon as possible.
Thanks for the points!
Nice time and good luck!

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