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All Users.WINNT and Default User.WINNT folders. What should I do?

I have been through this before with server 2003.  A was advised to reinstall which I did.  

Now I have just discovered the same issue on my main win2000 PC.  Since installing W2000 I have installed at least 50 other programs and taken Ghost images at regular intervals.  All with the intention of sending the final image out to 17 identical PCs.  I DO NOT WANT TO REINSTALL WIN2000.

I have read all previous topics on this issue in Experts exchange and the following Microsoft article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q242258/

which contains no recommendation.

I have used this PC in a workgroup now for some months without problems at all.
It will be used in a domain soon.

MUST I REINSTALL AND LOSE WEEKS OF WORK, OR CAN I USE IT TO CREATE MASTER IMAGES FOR ROLLING OUT?

This is very important.
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I forgot to mention that it is the 2 folders ending with ".WINNT" that are used by the system.  The other 2 without the ".WINNT" ending are empty and clearly not used.
>>>I forgot to mention that it is the 2 folders ending with ".WINNT" that are used by the system.  The other 2 without the ".WINNT" ending are empty and clearly not used.

First of all you need to remove these two folder's refrence from Registry. By default system assumes that these folders are the main folders which will be used to created default profile for the user. What all folders you see in \Documents and Settings except your user profile?

Let me know.

Thanks
Goto this location in registry and check this entry defined in Right Pane for these two folders: -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

Do you see these two folders in this list?
There is some conflict with "All Users" and "Default User" folder in your system because when you install Windows 2000 for the very first time you will see only these two folders (All Users and Default User). So to remove this conflict you need to change the Shell folder location or their path to somewhere else. Do you see "All Users" and "Default User" folders in \Documents and Settings\?

One more thing...i think when you try to delete them you can't. Right? If yes then windows is assuming these two folders as system folders and not ordinary.
Can I just leave everything as it is now???

MUST I remove the 2 WINNT folders???

The computer has been working fine.   Is it actually necessary to change anything??

>>>Can I just leave everything as it is now??? The computer has been working fine.   Is it actually necessary to change anything??

If it is working properly then do not change anything and go ahead.

>>>MUST I remove the 2 WINNT folders???

That's what i was asking....do you have another two folders "All Users" and "Default User" in \Documents and Settings?

Thanks for your reply.
SystmProg



Yes I have the following:

All users
Default
All users.WINNT
Default.WINNT
Sorry, spelling mistake.

All users
Default users
All users.WINNT
Default users.WINNT
No prob :-)

So you have these folders. When you try to delete All Users.WINNT or Default Users.WINNT do you get "Access is Deniend"?

And also list the entries in this key from registry: -

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

Its late night...i will post tommo.

Thanks
SystmProg

I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote above.

I do not want to delete any folders.  I do NOT want to delete "All users.WINNT" or "Default.WINNT".  As I wrote above, they are being used by windows.

Can I just leave all 4 folders as they are?

I do not understand why you suggest that I delete these folders.  It will corrupt windows.
I am not asking you to delete any folder.....i just wan to confirm or want to know which one is the SYSTEM Folder...either All Users.WINNT or All Users.

You can leave it as it is and please go proceed nothing will happen.

Thank You
SystmProg
All users.WINNT is used by windows.  Not All users.
Ok. no problem.

Please proceed and let me know. I am out of office till this saturday.
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Not sure I understand what the problem is here. Are you simply wanting to know why these folders exist ? What is it that you are trying to achieve exactly ?
ScrptMasta

I understand why the 2 folders ("All users.WINNT" or "Default.WINNT") have been created.  A mistake on my part when installing win2000.

But the bottom line is that they are not really meant to be there.  The system should be using the 2 folders called "All users" and "Default" instead which remain empty.  But the system is in fact using the 2 folders ending with .WINNT.  Does this matter???

Will this issue create problems in the future when I start operating under a 2003 domain? (which I do not have yet)  

Can you see problems of any kind arising in the future because of this?  Or can I go ahead and ignor these unusual folders, roll out an image of this PC to 17 other PCs and then connect them all to a 2003 domain with active directory?
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Thank you very much to both of you for all you have written.  A great help and a big relief.  I'm sorry I can't give you both 500 points.
You were simply worrying about it.
ScrptMasta

Sorry to bother you again so soon.  But I have another serious problem which I posted under win 2003 server two days ago.  Unfortunately nobody has given a response.  Your advice has always been both very clear and helpful.  Could I drag you away from your work again?  If you could afford the time I'd be very grateful.

I cannot continue installing the 2003 server until I have resolved this issue.

The question is called:  "Image backup of Raid 1, Service partition, Ghost/Deploy Center, Fujitsu Siemens Econel 40"

Cheers