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Logged on bosses account: I have inherited a Citrix Metaframe XP Presentation Server running on Windows 2000 server. It is running Zen Works 4 Novell Workstation Manager and is incorporated into the NDS (Netware 6.5) tree under one organizational unit. Users in that unit are able to logon remotely and the workstation manager service will automatically assign a user account. I have three problems.

1) I am a Novell novice and worse still, rusty.

2) I need for users in another organization unit to be able to access the Citrix box in the same way and have their users acounts dynamically created. Their context obviously is different as they are in a different org unit but they are in the same tree.

3) I have heard there is an issue using contextless login (possible solution?) with terminal session clients. I am waiting for off hours to test this.

Any help is appreciated and thank you in advance.
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by:gbaharoff
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Increased point value due to customer stating that they are live on critical application hosted by this system.
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What was done here before I started was all of the various users in multiple assorted OUs with permission to use Citrix had aliases created in the parent org container, and the logins for the citrix sessions all defaulted to the org container rather than the users' individual ous.  That might work for you, too.  It's kind of a workaround that bypasses the need to set up contextless login.

I don't know how that would work with DLU.  We have the Citrix boxes part of an NT domain.
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To create aliases, you select the container in the tree pane on the left side of ConsoleOne and choose create object (the box icon in the toolbar) or with a context-menu choice of create object, or through the pulldown menus.  When the object window displays the object types, locate the alias object type and select it.  To create the alias, you browse to the object you're creating the alias of and select it in the create alias dialog, and leave it the same name.

The alias object acts as though it is a member of the container it's created in, but is really a pointer to the actual object located in the child OU.  Logins against the alias object in the context of the container the alias resides in functions as though the login context were changed to the child OU except for login scripting, which unless you're using profile login scripts or includes, will take the login script of the alias' container.
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I think. ;)
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by:gbaharoff
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I tried the alias and it does work for the Novell login but the local account problem still exists for the Citrix box. There must be a cleaner way to do this. Thanks for the response though. It would work but it would be very cumbersome. I also tried an alias to the workstation object as well with no effect.
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by:gbaharoff
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Actually the DLU functionality is working, I simply need to either modify it ot extend it to another container. Thanks for your persistence ShineOn, obviously you have a way with the Novell knowledge base. I always have a hard time phrasing my questions right for it.
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Oh.  You need to a) apply the DLU policy package(s) to the other container's users or b) create DLU policy package(s) for the other container.
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by:gbaharoff
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Now my problem is that I can see the DLU policy in NWAdmin32. I cannot see it in my console1 which seems to be the only place I will be able to modify it. Am I missing a snapin in my console1? I am thinking if I can modify it maybe that will allow me to extend the functionality? I am pretty sure I can create another one in the other container but am unsure if it will provide the DLU functionality to the object in the other container.
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by:ShineOn
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This may or may not require modification of existing user policy package(s) in the other container to make sure they apply properly.  Check the user policy package(s) in the local container to see how the DLU policy is configured.
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You should not use nwadmn32 to control ZEN4 policies.  If you can't se the policy packages in the current container using C1 you have a copy that doesn't have the ZEN snapins.  If you're running a local copy, try running the one on the ZEN server.  If that works, take a fresh copy for your local copy.
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by:gbaharoff
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Ok, I found the policy packages in C1. How do I apply the package to the other container? I have just now associated it with the target container and added the target container as a trustee of it. Does that sound correct? I will try to logon and see what happens.
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by:gbaharoff
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Yeah Baby! I think I got it! Need to do some more testing but the test user I was using was created a DLU account automatically.
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If that's how the policy package is associated to the currently working container, then that should work for the other container.  If the policy package is associated to individual users or to groups, then that's how it should be associated to the other users.

The thing with DLU is it sets local account security levels, so if some users should be "users" and some should be "power users" and the administrators should be "administrators" and some should be temporary with immediate removal and some should be permanent, or whatever, then you would have multiple user policy packages for the various DLU account types and they would be associated to individual users or to user groups.
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Another thing is, if the other container is in a different partition than the container that has the policy package(s) and a server local to those users doesn't have a replica of the original working container, you should create appropriate policy packages in that container so they don't have to tree-walk to get their policies.
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