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I have a customer with Novell Netware 6.

The server was not setup by me, and i'm not a CNE.

It recently crashed and we had to reload the server.  Previously, when the admin user logged in, nal.exe and nalexpld.exe loaded with the option to launch the Novell Easy Administration Tool (NEAT).  I prefer using NWADMIN, but the customer likes managing their own users and wants to use the NEAT Tool.  I can not find a cd for this anywhere.

I thought it was part of ZenWorks, but there isn't a cd for that anywhere.  I thought at one time, there was a "lite" version that could be installed which gave some features of Zenworks without purchasing the full version.

Can this be downloaded, or do I need to order another Media Kit?

Thanks,

Patrick
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NEAT is an administration tool specific to NetWare Small Business Suite.
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By "reload" do you mean you had to reinstall the OS?  Was that done using the SBS media?  Do they do a tape backup?  Did you restore from the backup after reinstalling the OS?
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SBS comes with ZFD, by the way.  If you installed with a regular 6.0 media kit, you wouldn't have had all the SBS product options available at install time.
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From what I understand, they had Netware 6.0, and not SBS.

I reloaded the OS first and then restored from backup.

I performed some administration work on the server prior to it failing, and it didn't mention anywhere SBS.  Not sure if just the NEAT tool can be loaded, or if the person who originally installed the server used something they shouldn't have.

Thanks,

Patrick

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Did you restore SYS vol and DS?
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I restored the SYS vol and DS.

I still have the old server, which has a bad hard drive controller i could pull those files off of.

But I was trying to figure out where it came from to put offsite in case this problem happens again.

Thanks,

Patrick
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I don't know what else to tell you.

If they don't have SBS, they won't have NEAT, and if they don't own ZEN, they won't have NAL, unless they had SBS or this was an upgrade from 5.1.

If they had NAL and NEAT before the rebuild, they should have had it after the restore.
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By the way, you said "I prefer NWADMIN" in your Question.

That's OK for you, provided you don't have any Novell products released since 2000, but please don't push that preference on your customers, and don't (not please, just don't) use it to manage NetWare 6 or newer, or GroupWise 6 or newer, or BorderManager 3.7 or newer, or ZEN 3.2 or newer... you could hose things up pretty bad using the wrong tool, - especially GroupWise 6x.

If your customer has NetWare 6x  they should be using ConsoleOne or iManager, not NWADMIN, and so should you.  NWADMN32 hasn't been updated since May of 2000, and won't ever be.  5.19f is the last version.  The only thing NWADMN32 should be used for in a NW6x environment is for managing 3rd-party NDPS gateways, and the occasional workaround for things not yet programmed into iManager or C1 (which also will be discontinued eventually.)  

Of course, if they have SBS, it's perfectly OK for them to use NEAT, since that's the "easy admin" tool that ships with SBS - but there may be some things that they can't use NEAT for, in which case they should use C1 or iManager, whichever is needed.
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THanks for the pointers.

I don't know how the NEAT Tool got on there, and don't have any cd's or record of them owning Zenworks or SBS.

I've never used C1 Much, will it automatically set the permission for home directories?  Thats on thing that the NEAT tool did that NWADMIN doesn't do (that I know).

Sorry to sound so vague, but this customer only has about 50 computers, and about 25 of those actually use the server, the rest is for authentication and app distribution.  How long before C1 or Netware 6 will become obsolete? or at least not supported.

Thanks,

Patrick
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It will, as long as you tell it where the home directory is.  If you are creating the home directory as part of creating the user, on the first dialog, it definitely will.

You have to make sure the home directory path matches the login script so it will map properly, tho...

ConsoleOne isn't EOL yet, and NetWare 6 will be EOL in fall of 2005.  
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