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Terminal Server Licencing in Win2003

I have Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition.
When i open terminal server licening i have:
Unlimited existing windows 2000 terminal services cal tokens
1 terminal server 2003 cal token   (i remember purchasing this one after my 120 days were up and i couldnt log in anymore)

when i open the regular licencing window i see that i have 10 CALs for my server and they are not per user or per device, rather they are 10 concurrent connections.

so does this mean i am licenced to have 10 concurrent terminal server connections as long as nobody else is logged into the domain?
I now have 4 people logged into terminal services all day every day and there appears to be no problem with this.

how is this supposed to work?  what am i actually licenced to do?
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saunaG
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Julian HansenCommented:
As far as I understand it your TS CALS are sepearte from your Server CALS. So if you have 10 TS CALS for 10 concurrent sessions then you will be able to hvae 10 TS sessions to the server.
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saunaGAuthor Commented:
ok, but i have only 1 TS CAL but daily have 4 concurrent TS sessions - how is this working?
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Julian HansenCommented:
As far as I know you cannot buy 1 TS CAL - they come in packs of 5. So if you have 1 TS CAL pack that is good for 5 users.
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saunaGAuthor Commented:
when i open TS Licencing it shows i have 1 TS CAL token
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Julian HansenCommented:
There should be 5 columns in the Terminal Server Licensing console (Product Type Total Available Issued). You should see something like this

Product                                                                                Type                    Total       Available   Issued
Windows Server 2003 - Terminal Server Per User CAL Token   Retail Purchase        5              2             3

Do you see something like that?

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saunaGAuthor Commented:
yep:

Product                                                                                                     Type       Total          Available      Issued
Existing Windows 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (Per Device)    Built-in     Unlimited    Unlimited           0
Windows Server 2003 - Terminal Server Per User CAL Token                        Open          1                1                   0
Windows Server 2003 - Terminal Server Per User CAL Token                        Open           1               1                   0


and right now there are 5 users connected via terminal services.  1 from xp pro (administrator), three from NT4 Workstation and 1 from win 98
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Julian HansenCommented:
Hmm - it appears you purchased your CALS under the Open License program. According to MS Docs you had to type in the number of license you bought when you loaded the license.

Refer

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;237811&sd=tech

Point number 18 - see the Note.

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saunaGAuthor Commented:
yes but why do i have more connections than i am supposedly licenced for?  and the ones i did buy are not being used since the 'issued' column always reads zero
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Julian HansenCommented:
Oh, wait a bit.

Just let me clarify something quickly - where are the licenses loaded and where are the clients connecting to.

From you post two posts back it seems to indicate that you are looking at licensing on a Windows 2000 server - if your users are connecting to 2003 this will be a problem. Windows 2000 cannot pass licenses out for Windows 2003 TS.

You need to look at TS Licensing on the Windows 2003 server.

Can you clarify exactly how things are set up. Where your users are connecting, where you are looking at licensing etc.

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saunaGAuthor Commented:
i only have one server - windows 2003 - it is domain controller and terminal server all rolled into one.
i have no idea what the windows 2000 thing is or how it got there... i never had windows 2000, bought 2003 out of the box.

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Julian HansenCommented:
Ok, you got me stumped - I will keep looking and post back if I find anything.

BTW I am a bit confused about something - in your original post you said

>> when i open the regular licencing window i see that i have 10 CALs for my server and they are not per user or per device, rather they are 10 concurrent connections.

But then later on you say there is only 1 license under total available - where did the 10 come from?
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saunaGAuthor Commented:
the 10 is the windows licencing (Administrative Tools - Licencing)- users to log onto the server - not to do with terminal services

the term server stuff is from (Administrative Tools - Terminal Server Licencing)
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Julian HansenCommented:
Oh - ok - got it - totally different licenses.

So the main question here is why are users able to connect to the Windows 2003 box despite the fact that it appears that insufficient licenses have been loaded and that of the licenses that appear to be loaded (in this case 1) why it is never being issued - is that correct?

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saunaGAuthor Commented:
exactly!
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Julian HansenCommented:
Ok, turns out there is a "feature" with 2003 and TS Licensing in User mode - seems this functionality was added to the server code late and as such the license manager does not deal with User CAL's properly

Refer article

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822134

see the note at the bottom.

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saunaGAuthor Commented:
aha..
"Currently, Window Server 2003 does not manage User CALs. This means that even though there is a User CAL in the license server database, the User CAL will not be decremented when it is used. This does not remove administrators from End User License Agreement (EULA) requirements to have a valid terminal server (TS) CAL for each user. Failure to have a User CAL for each user, if Device CALs are not being used, is a violation of the EULA. In the future, this behavior will be changed and User CALs will be managed."

guess i should get into compliance before this behaviour gets clobbered by a service pack or something....

thanks.
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Julian HansenCommented:
you are welcome
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