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Sound Card Problems. Need MIDI Help.

I have a AMD46 3000+, Windows XP Pro, my motherboard is LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb. I want to hook up my musical keyboard via MIDI. The problem is that on my system there is no standard 15-pin MIDI/Joystick port. I bought a generic sound card (as instructed by the salesman at the music store) but my computer will not recognize the MIDI connection. I checked in the Device Manager and there is an exclamation mark next to "standard game port" in the "Sound, Video and Game Controllers" bracket. I tried using Windows Update and the Windows XP  disk, but nothing works.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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tmj883Commented:
Turn off the onboard sound in the system BIOS. Uninstall any software associated with the previous sound card. Reboot. Install the new sound card. T
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looking916Author Commented:
tmj883, I just tried that, but no connection yet. Do you think I need new hardware? Hopefully not.
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nobusCommented:
if you installed the drivers, and it still does not work, then i would return it, and try another brand or model.
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mysticaldanCommented:
Usually onboard soundcards have seperate game port in the BIOS. You will see it as a game port and with its own IRQ address like 10 or 11. You need to disable any sound related thing you can find in the BIOS. Save and Exit. Then u need to remove ur current sound card and the game controller with the exclaimation mark and then restart the system. There is a chance that the card might be at fault but check if it has any jumpers to enable/disable the game port. Also load the drivers that came with the sound card and not any that windows might install. This is a list of game ports supported by Windows :
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q295/3/18.asp

Also you might wanna check the manufacturers site for a latest version of the drivers. What manufacturer is this genereic card?

Dan
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simonenticottCommented:
Hi,
if you really want midi you might want to consider a proper midi interface.  If you ever have more than one keyboard you'll wish you'd bought a  decent interface to begin with.  You can get a decent interface for not much more than a soundcard.  i would recommend any M-audio interface, i've been using them for over 10 years now and they are brilliant.  Here is a link for you to look at -

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=usbmidiinterfaces

the prices on here are quite high, but if yo shop around a few music sites you'll find the interfaces quite a bit cheaper, there is always ebay too, there are usually a few up for auction on there.

Simon.
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kalamazooCommented:
Sure sounds like the drivers to me.  Look on your souncard and write down the numbers on the biggest chips.  Also the card's pc board may have a model number or FCC ID on it.  Write them down the google search the numbers with "download drivers".  Ideally, if you know the manufacturer, you should get the driver from them.  

I have some equipment MIDI'd to my PC through a Soundblaster Live card.  The MIDI cords hook-up to the joystick adapter on the back of the card.  It works pretty well...
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looking916Author Commented:
I have a C-media model #CMI8738/PCI. I downloaded the drivers but I still have that problem. The midi cable and sound card are new.
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mysticaldanCommented:
Get the latest drivers from http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm depending on ur model and then check. When it asks abt the game port just point it to tthe same directory in which u extract the files. Also when u dbl click on Gameport in the Device manager where it is showing up as an ! mark what does it say? Does it say resource conflict or device not present?

Also this thing shud be possible with the manufacturers CD that u got with the card so let windows auto detect the game port drivers from the CD. Does it give some error??
Dan
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looking916Author Commented:
I did not recieve a cd with the sound card. I also tried to install the driver but it never takes away the exclamation mark.
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mysticaldanCommented:
Looks like the sound card might be bad. The sound part might be fine but the gameport might be damaged. I suggest u get the card excahnged with some other model.
Also even the cheapest sound card has accompanying drivers with it. Its possible the vendor sold u a damaged sound card hoping u wudnt need the gameport.

To confirm you might wanna try and put this sound card on a Win98 System and check that all is well. Download corresponding driver from the site and then see. Also i think the sound card drivers have a setup program. Remove ur sound card and game port and corresponding hardware entries from Device Manager and run the Setup program for the drivers and then check if that solves the problem. I have a similar card which gets installed properly this way only.

Dan
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nobusCommented:
That is what i said already long ago...
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mysticaldanCommented:
But we can only reach the conclusion after having exhausted possibilities and trying solutions. There has to be a basis for saying that the hardware is bad else its probably the easiest solution to a problem ;-)

I still believe that the sound card is probably OK but the way the method the asker is installing drivers is wrong or missing something.

For a driver thats almost 2.5 megs long it has to have a setup program that shud automatically load the drivers for the user. If that doesnt happen then the user can probably extract the files to a directory and then point windows towards that directory to search for drivers for the gameport. It shud work unless there is a conflict or something.

Can u try and disable ur LPT port from the BIOS and see if that helps? Have u disabled onboard sound card properly?

Dan
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looking916Author Commented:
Thank you eveyrone for all of the help. I think I will have to buy a new card, and maybe such a cheep one.
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