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Disoriented Motherboard..Video card wouldn't fit.

After having a lot of CMOS problems with my old motherboard, I bought this new motherboard..Everything seems to be working great...However, when I put in the washers that they provided me with, I can't fit the motherboard properly in the case. It looks very disoriented. Due to that, I can't even put any PCI devices in the respective slots. Currently I have 2 PCI devices; a video card and wirless adapter card. What can I do?. If I try to put the motherboard without the washers, everything fits in properly, but it wouldn't boot (maybe due to shorting in the case).


Again thanks for your help...I am really soooo close to successfully building my first computer
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joshichinu
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Steve McCarthy, MCSE, MCSA, MCP x8, Network+, i-Net+, A+, CIWA, CCNA, FDLE FCIC, HIPAA Security OfficerIT Consultant, Network Engineer, Windows Network Administrator, VMware AdministratorCommented:
Am I assuming correctly that you have the metal posts in the case properly aligned with the holes in the motherboard??  Are you refering to these as washers or do you have washers that are fitting on top of the metal posts???

Generally you put in the posts to line up with the holes and life should be good.  If you have shorting problems then, you can use an old trick.  Take Electrical tape and put it over the top of the posts or on the bottom of the motherboard where the holes are.  Stick a hole through it where the screw goes through and then install the Motherboard.  The tape acts as an insulator so you don't short things out to the posts.
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nobusCommented:
are you talking about the mounting standoffs of the motherboard? you should use the ones provided with the case, or look for the ones with the correct length. If you don't have any, look for them in a PC repair shop.
 Generally they look like this :

           ______
           | |   | |
           | |   | |   ====>standoff part
           | |   | |
           | |   | |
           ---------
              |   |
              |   |     =======>  Screw part to motherboard
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joshichinuAuthor Commented:

I have plastic washers that fit on top of these holes in the chasis that, I believe, act as insulators. Believe me they are really big. I can't use them and fit the motherboard at the same time...
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nobusCommented:
normally you do not have to use those washers; hte holes are surrounded with a metal part in the form of the washer that can be grounded.
 Just check not to mount too many standoffs, only where the mounting holes are
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joshichinuAuthor Commented:
Refering to the statement above, "hte holes are surrounded with a metal part in the form of the washer that can be grounded.".. How do I ground it.
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nobusCommented:
the standoff does it, since it is a metal part, fixed to the bottom plate; it happens automatically if you tighten the screw for fixing the board.
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WatzmanCommented:

We need to know the motherboard model.  It's possible that you bought a "BTX" motherboard and are trying to put it into an ATX case.  ATX and BTX are two different form factors, and a BTX motherboard won't go into an ATX case.  [BTX is a brand new form-factor and is still relatively rare, but regardless, we really need to know what motherboard you bought and are dealing with].
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joshichinuAuthor Commented:
No no..this is ATX motherboard and ATX case... This is a BIOSTAR M7NCD PRO...

Many Thanks,
CJ
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originalbiffmalibuCommented:
Are you saying that when the board is mounted it is too high to push the PCI cards all the way in?  If so, use shorter mounts that came with the case.  You do not need washers anymore because, as nobus said, there is a ground ring around each mainboard hole for mounting.  Just make sure to use screws with a head smaller than the metal ring.
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WatzmanCommented:

Normally, the mounting hardware does not come with the motherboard, it comes with the case.
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joshichinuAuthor Commented:
Yes the mobo is mounted too high because of the washers. These huge mounts came with the case. Can i use the electrical tape as suggested by SAMCCARTHY
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Steve McCarthy, MCSE, MCSA, MCP x8, Network+, i-Net+, A+, CIWA, CCNA, FDLE FCIC, HIPAA Security OfficerIT Consultant, Network Engineer, Windows Network Administrator, VMware AdministratorCommented:
Yes
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