deny delete allow change permission fails

Posted on 2005-04-15
Last Modified: 2013-12-04
Trying to allow users to add, read, modify but not delete
files on a win 200 advanced server using Active Directory.
In the advanced file settings for the folder, I have
removed the delete permissions and added deny permissions
some files refuse to save under the original file name at this point,
offering a temporary name instead. In the end one file
will become many different files. The permissions work
with an ordinary text file.

Do you have an idea why?

May I know the diference between Share permission and Security permisions

Please send me response to, instead of Juan Tsokanis, he is my boss and I don't want to bother him.

Question by:jtsokanis
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    share permissions are set once at the share root, and apply to every file/directory in the share - they also only apply when the data is accessed over the network.

    NTFS (security) permissions can be defined individually for every file/directory - they apply no matter how the data is being accessed

    If they are both being used (ie. when over a network) the MOST restrictive of the two wins out

    ie. NTFS is Full, Share is Read - when I access over the network I have READ
    NTFS is Ream, Share is Full - when I access over the network I have READ

    - for what you're doing, I would share with Full Control, and use NTFS to tweak the permissions
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    ps. it's against the EE rules to answer questions off-site...gotta keep it in EE
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    Assisted Solution

    This won't work. "Modify" includes "Delete". What would be the point of separating them? If you can modify a file, you can modify it to contain plain nothing, the difference to deleting it being marginal.
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    in the 'advanced' permissions, it gives you the impression that this will work ("write data" and "delete" are separate permissions) however; in practice I believe that the reason it won't work is because, when you edit a Word document, it creates a temporary file..then when you save the data, it tries to delete the temporary file (which it can't). You may be noticing a bunch of .~tmp files in that directory...

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