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Hi, I have AutoCAD 2005; upon startup, the program locks up with the text "Regenerating Model" and a black screen; any ideas? Please advise, thank you.
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by:haikle
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Hi abs-ptony

Are you starting AutoCAD by double-clicking a drawing file?
If so, try starting from an AutoCAD shortcut.

Do you have the latest AutoCAD service pack?

Do you have any Object Enablers loaded?

What Windows are you running?

Do you have any support paths that are network locations?

Has AutoCAD 2005 worked on that particular PC before? If so, has anything changed since then? i.e. new software installed, Windows patches, blue screens, AutoCAD crashes, virus, trojan horses, etc.

haikle
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by:abs-ptony
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- Starting AutoCAD by clicking on the desktop shortcut
- Latest service pack "ACAD2005sp1SWL.exe" installed
- Object Enablers? Not sure about this one
- Windows XP SP1 (newinstall)
- No blue screens; all other programs function normally.
- Already removed / re-installed AutoCAD.

- am I out of luck?
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by:haikle
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Do you have any routines that are automatically loaded and run on startup?

Have you tried starting AutoCAD by double-clicking on a DWG file?
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by:abs-ptony
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- Where do i check for startup routines?  
- I've double clicked "8th Floor Plumbing.dwg" under the samples directory and the status below states (frozen there):
    Regenerating Model
    Please wait; formatting text
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by:dhsindy Sparrow
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Could you be running out of memory or other equipment failure?  Sounds like you are running out of some resource.  Autodesk is pretty good for putting in error messages for missing files and such.  Talk to your reseller.
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The main system specifications (new setup):

- Intel Pentium-4 2.8 Ghz 800FSB / 1mb / 775pin
- Asus P5AD2-E Deluxe (Intel 925XE Chipset)
- 1Gb Samsung DDR-2 Memory
- Hitachi 80GB 7200 RPM



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by:haikle
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Does the PC have a live internet connection?
Perhaps the AutoCAD Today bullentin application is hanging.

< Object Enablers? Not sure about this one >
Object enablers (OEs) are plugins you can download from Autodesk.
The ADT OE that allows AutoCAD to read Architectural Desktop objects.
The ABS OE that allows AutoCAD to read Autodesk Building Systems objects, etc.

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How long have you waited to see if AutoCAD clears itself up?

While waiting, you could check your Task Manager and see if the acad.exe process is really doing anything or just sitting there with 0 CPU usage. Also look at the process' memory usage from the Task Manager.

Here's page from Autodesk website regarding the Today bulletin causing AutoCAD to hang.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?id=2886785&linkID=2475323&siteID=123112
It's does not exactly match your symptoms but might be worth a try.
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by:dhsindy Sparrow
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Your system sounds powerful enough.  Did you have any trouble installing the program?  When AcadCAD starts from the icon it loads the template file acad.dwt and calls it drawing1.dwg.  Verify you have a file named acad.dwt in the template folder.
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- Internet connection is working; how do i find any object enabler settings?
- I've waited over 2 hours, but does not clear up.
- System Idle Process is 99% CPU usage
- Acad.exe is 0% CPU usage
- AdskCleanup.0001 is 0% CPU usage (not sure what this is)
- Under Application Status: AutoCAD 2005 [Drawing1.dwg], Status: Not responding
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< how do i find any object enabler settings >
If you did not download and install OEs, then it's probably not there.

< AdskCleanup.0001 is 0% CPU usage (not sure what this is) >
I think this process has to do with licensing.

Are you running standalone or network licensing?
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Network... we have total 5, this computer would total 5
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by:haikle
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Try renaming the C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Temp\AdskCleanup.0001 file.
AutoCAD should create a new one.

Can you look at the license server to see if AutoCAD gets as far as getting a license?
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by:abs-ptony
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Great!!! deleting the AdskCleanup.0001 file works on the first try, but after closing / reopening AutoCAD, same thing happens again. Then rename the file again, but requires a re-boot to function.  The License server does pass out 1 license to the computer.  Thanks for the quick response!
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Upon successful opening and closing of AutoCAD, check the server to see if it's releasing the license.

What version of the license manager LMTOOLS are you running?
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by:abs-ptony
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- The server is releasing the "floating" license properly (clicked on "Perform Status Enquiry")
- LMTOOLS Version 9.22
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When you installed Autocad, did you close all applications and disabled all viruscan applications?
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- All applications closed; all virus scan processes / applications terminated....
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Have you tried stopping and starting the LMTOOLS server?
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I'll schedule a re-start of the server.... Thanks for all the help.
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by:haikle
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Sorry, I meant to say restart the license tool.
I said "server" because the buttons are named "Start Server" and "Stop Server".

Although a cold boot probably wouldn't hurt either.
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by:abs-ptony
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I've power cycled the server; still same... I can only get it to start once if i delete the AdskCleanup.0001 file during a session; else i need to reboot again... is this grounds for a complete re-format?
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Are you logged in as an administrator on the PC running AutoCAD? I would think so but just to be sure.
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This is how AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006 all reacts when there is corrupt license information in the registry. A re-install will not likely fix the problem because it relys upon the registry entries to determine if the license server can issue a license for that system. You might solve the problem by doing a complete uninstall first before re-installing.
If you are using a network version, a simple solution is to fix the incorrect registry entries by restoring the system to a state before your installation failed. A more impractical although effective means of correcting the problem is to manually edit the registry to correct the problems. If you are comfortable enough with the registry editor, Select START -> Run then type REGEDIT and click OK -  you would browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R16.0\ACAD-201:409\AdLM
or whatever key is the one leading to the AdLM key (it would depend on the Locale setting of your installation, this example uses ACAD-201:409)
Once you are there,  edit the value of TYPE to reflect the following values:
dword:00000019

Close the registry editor and try AutoCAD. If everything is kosher,  then AutoCAD should start without incident. If not try rebooting after changing the registry.
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by:haikle
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Glad to see someone else chime in. If the single registry key solution mentioned by Muerty works, that would be great.
If not, the only other suggestion I have is to uninstall Autocad, clean the registry of all the Autodesk entries and re-install.

abs-ptony:
I judge from your profile that you know the ins and outs of Windows registry. For others, I need to say that they need to be careful dealing with the registry as accidental deletions or alterations could require reinstalling Windows to fix.

Good luck.
haikle
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by:dhsindy Sparrow
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Apparently there are a couple of programs that interfere with Acad2005's startup, see this link at Autodesk and check if you are running either of these two programs:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=4366073&linkID=2475323

Hope this helps, dhs
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by:abs-ptony
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Thank you all for your time and generous help; I had to re-format the system with Windows 2000 because the user was waiting for the system and sure enough, it worked.

Thanks again.
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