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Image of a Floppy

Hello!

I'm trying to make a bootable DVD using BINGBURN from Terabyte Unlimited.

I have an image file saved on E:drive that BINGBURN is to copy to the DVD. I don't understand BINGBURN'S instructions re creating an image of a floppy. These instructions follow here:-

    "This file should be an exact sector by sector
  file image of a bootable 3.5" 1.44MB diskette."

Ive no probs making images of system partitions, but don't get how to do a floppy image. Once I learn how to do the floppy image, I know how to use it to make the DVD bootable 'cause this is very easy in BINGBURN, but how to make the floppy image???

I am running XP Home,1.2GHz Celeron, 120GB HDD.

I have IsoBuster & Roxio's Easy CD/DVD Creator programs if they're needed.

 TIA and kind regards,
    Malcolm


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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
Why don't you try to use an easier way.
http://www.tucows.com/preview/222418.html
Download this software is easier to use and not that complicated.

Also if you don't like the easy way, then here's an explination for using the image with the Bingburn.
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=172
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bobsanders653Commented:
Go to www.bootdisk.com obtain a copy of whatever boot image you wish - DOS 6.22 - Win98, etc.  Drag the file into WinRAR and ignore the error message.  From within the window of WinRAR drag the icon that shows up (ignore file size - is incorrect) onto your desktop.  You will now have a file called *.ima  - this is a perfect boot image you can use then for your program.  A free eval of WinRAR is available here:

www.rarlabs.com
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
Thanks moh 10ly!
I would really prefer the option you listed from Terabyte that uses the cdboot.f35 file because this launches the Image for Dos prog with which I am familiar & used to create the original image that I'm using BINGBURN with.
You see, I'm hopeless at DOS but this prog (Image For DOS) is very easy for me to use. This leads me to the new prob - the cdboot.f35 option requires the IMGFLPYD prog from Terabyte which uses DOS. I just need a little help with the precise commands,spaces, slashes,etc of DOS to use this option.
I've downloaded & expanded the zip of IMGFLPYD that Terabyte explains is needed for this option. I also have DOSDROP that opens a command window directly at the appropriate folder by right-clicking. I think I may even have had the DOS commands right, but when I pressed Enter I got a Windows can't read this file (cdboot.f35) & to select an appropriate reading prog. I have the usual Notepad, Adobe 7, Word,etc. I didn't know which to choose, so went for Notepad. As a result, I got a Notepad file of cdboot.f35 but it's the wrong size - not the full 1.44MB floppy size that is reqd by BINGBURN.
So, perhaps I need help with two things - the DOS syntax & handling the "Windows can't read" hassle.
As I said earlier I prefer the cdboot.f35 option, but I did try your other suggestion already. I've downloaded & used Floppy Image to save an image file. You might be wondering why, if I've gone this far why I don't want to continue with this option. My question here is, when I use this image (XP's MS-DOS floppy) with BINGBURN, will the final DVD's that I create boot with that dreaded DOS which I get all tangled with? My guess is they will because that's what the bootable image is. Therefore, I want to use the Image For DOS prog which requires the cdboot.f35 image.
I haven't yet read the other replies but will most certainly do so at the earliest. I'm really grateful that this help has come in!!!!!!! Many thanks to you all.
Cheers,
   Malcolm
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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
First i'd like to say that sure that the dvd will boot, other wise they won't ask for a floppy bootable disc.
Let's start with the first problem that you got which is the Dos syntax:-

As i read in the page that refers to the IMGFLPYD It says :
Open a Command Prompt and change to the folder that contains the IMGFLPYD program.
That means you have to goto Start --> run --- Type  cmd then enter.
You'll get the command prompt, " Change to the folder that contains the Imgflpyd, This means that when you downloaded the IMGFLPYD file, Extracted it, in the command prompt You'll have to type the following
for example if you extracted the Imgflpyd file in the c:\Imgflpyd folder, type:
cd\
cd imgflpyd
and type as below
imgflpyd a: c:\theimagefilename "you can name it anything"
This will make an image file of your floppy and copy it to the C:\ drive.
Now after you have the image file of the floppy saved on your c: drive you can burn and browse the target of the file and Image set file.

This is the exmaple you've had in the terabyte link about how using the imgflpyd command.
3.  With the custom bootable floppy diskette in the drive, run IMGFLPYD to create the image.  Here is a sample command line:

imgflpyd a: c:\custom.f35

Where "a:" refers to your floppy drive, and "c:\custom.f35" represents the path and file name where the floppy disk image will be saved.

I haven't ever used this software you are using, but my guess is that it's like Nero, all you have to do is burn the image to the dvd which is what you want.

And the other problem which is windows can't read cdboot.35 sounds like you don't have the registered copy of Image for dos, or maybe you downloaded it from the bad link or it's currupted,

Also you can't use notepad or another programs to open the .f53 files because its an image which will only work with the BingBurn, have alook at those links:-
http://www.heffy.com/imgflpyd.htm
http://www.heffy.com/bingburn.htm

Hope this helps
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
I'm getting there with this DOS, but after trying it I was asked to insert a floppy into A:drive & now I have A:\>with the prompt pulse.
I had entered the following as the last line in the cmd window

c:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:\cdboot.f35    (where cdboot.f35 is the file I need the floppy image of).

In other words, nothing went to C:drive but instead asked me about A: as above.
Please assist & thanks again for your DOS so far!
Cheers,
  Malcolm



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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
Still There's something missing Mpozqno, which is you forgot to type that document if what you paste is exactly what you did in the command prompt.

c:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:\cdboot.f35  
What is missing is that the command that make an image of your floppy to the c: drive
imgflpyd a: c:\cdboot.f53, Remember that you have to excute this command from its location, as i mentioned before.

moh10ly
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
I'm not sure,Moh 10ly, what I missed so here follows all of what I entered.and (yes) I am trying to save the floppy image that IMGFLPYD creates to C:drive ( I am the "Dad" mentioned in the initial line):-

C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\>cd\
C:\>cd imgflpyd
C:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:cdboot.f35
A:>

The above is what I have in the command window now ( I still have it in front of me).Please, what is the command I missed and where do I put it??
Thanka again,
   Malcolm

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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\>cd\
C:\>cd imgflpyd
C:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:cdboot.f35
A:>

What you missed was the command it self, now in the third line, you went in the folder where the IMGFLPYD exist, You have to type the command.

If now you are on a:\> then you have to go back to c:
Type the following on your screen.

Type  c:  then Press enter
type imgflpyd a: c:\cdboot.f53
Now See if something happend, is it starting to work or not.
If the above doesn't work, i'll make it easy on you, i'll make you a batch file so you just run it, and then you'll get the image on the C:\ drive.

Now paste this in Notepad and save it as Name.bat, Make the location be desktop
 
@echo off
cls
c:
cd\
cd IMGFLPYD
echo " Make sure the floppy disc is inside "
pause
imgflpyd a: c:\cdboot.f53
exit

Now after save the above into a notepad on desktop, goto desktop and run the new file on your desktop, and it will do the job in case that you failed to do the command.
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
Howdee, Moh-10ly!
Looks like the batch file did the trick! I now have the cdboot.f35 file on c:drive ready to use in BINGBURN. It takes about 50 minutes on my old 1.2GHz Pentium3 to burn & validate the DVD with BINGBURN & to really test the job thoroughly I'll actually do a restore of my c:drive onto another partition.
However, all that'll take time so I thought I'd reply to you first and accept your solution as no matter how the rest of it goes, you have solved the question I asked.
Just a point though,going back to the DOS I was not entering correctly - what exactly was the command that I missed??? I tried again before using your batch file and I had the same problem, yet I feel I was very close to getting it right.
Going back to your previous response, you mentioned "now in the third line, you went in the folder where the IMGFLPYD exist, You have to type the command." What was that command & where in the third line do I type it. You see, this would help me get an understanding of DOS.
Kind regards,
   Malcolm
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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
Glad to hear that Mpzqno

1 L     C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\>cd\
2 L     C:\>cd imgflpyd
3 L     C:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:cdboot.f35    <---- Third line
4 L     A:>

That was the third line, and the command you missed was " imgflpyd "
When you were in the Imgflpyd Directory, you should have typed the command imgflpyd so it starts to copy the floppy to the image file.
It's exactly like making a copy of a file to another location.
Copy a: C:\cdboot.f35 will copy all the files locating in A: to a file name " Cdboot.f53 " but this aint going to be an image file.
So the only thing that the "IMGFLPYD" file or command is doing that makes the file known to the program that you use it to burn the image file.

Good luck
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
Sorry. Moh-10ly, I know it's getting late at your end & I must seem dense on this DOS business
but Iknow which is the third line but I don't know where to put the command???
Following is the third line; where do I put the command "imgflpyd"? Could you show me the whole line with this command, please?

   Third Line in my command window  c:\IMGFLPYD> a: c:cdboot.f35

Cheers,
  Malcolm
 
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Mohammed HamadaSenior IT ConsultantCommented:
c:\IMGFLPYD> imgflpyd a: c:cdboot.f35

the "imgflpyd" which is before the a: is the missing command that you have to add it.
After typing cd\ you'll move to c:\ that means now you are on C Drive
but when you type " cd imgflpyd " this will move you from c:\ to c:\imgflpyd
If you type imgflpyd when you were in c:\, nothing is going to happend because the file is locating inside the c:\imgflpyd
and you have to type it again after you moved to c:\imgflpyd drive.

Moh10ly
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
I just did it OK the DOS way!!!!!!  Got the third line right at last!!1

Much appreciated, Moh-10ly!
Cheers,
   Malcolm
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mpzqnoAuthor Commented:
To Bob Sanders653 & BlackCrypTon I would like to thank you both for the informative websites & programs you mentioned.
Cheers,
  Malcolm
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dllfileCommented:
np :) Hope you got everything resolved
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