administering multiple databases on one server

I somehow got to be 'in charge' of a mysql database server that is to be used for many groups for different uses.

My intent is to create a database for each group and give one member of that group full permissions to that database only, but no power to mess up any other database.

So I run (for example):

> create database ktest4;
> grant all on ktest4.* to 'abc123'@'%' identified by 'abc123' with grant option;

This seems to work and user 'abc123' can login to the database ktest4.

However, now when the user 'abc123' wants to change their password, I tell them to type:

>mysql> SET PASSWORD FOR 'abc123'@'%' = PASSWORD('newpassword');

but they get:

>ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'abc123@%' to database 'mysql'

Strangely, if they type just 'abc123' instead of 'abc123'@'%' - that works, even tho my documentation says it's the same thing.

Also, when they want to create a new user for that database with limited privileges, I tell them to type:

mysql> grant SELECT, INSERT on ktest4.* to 'user_ktest4'@'%' identified by 'user_ktest4';

and again, they get:

ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'abc123@%' to database 'mysql'


Please explain this to me.  My primary documentation (MySQL by Paul DuBois) doesn't mention changes to the 'mysql' database...

Thanks.
red5Asked:
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crackyConnect With a Mentor Commented:
I agree. There is no reason for your users to be able to create new users. Just give them one user with all privs on their particular db and another user with SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE. Then one more with SELECT only.

This will cover their needs and they will not need to mess around with users.
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crackyCommented:
You should try: SET PASSWORD = PASSWORD('some password')
To set the password for the current user.
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/set-password.html

You need to give the user abc123 grant options, so they can create other users with equal or lower permissions using WITH GRANT OPTION when you create the user:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/grant.html
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red5Author Commented:
The alternate syntax for SET PASSWORD works.

However, if you look at my original post, you can see that I *did* use 'with grant option', yet the grant command still fails.

Is it possible that 'abc123' cannot 'create' user 'user_ktest4', but only modify it?

I have given the exact commands; could you run them yourself and see if your 'abc123' account is allowed to create 'user_ktest4' ?
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crackyCommented:
Sorry, I must have missed that line.

On the same manual page, have you tried creating abc123 with 'CREATE USER' privileges. Or modifying the user to add them?
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red5Author Commented:
'CREATE USER' is only in version 5+.  Unfortunately, I'm stuck with version 4.0.18.

I found that if I add 'INSERT' privilege to abc123 in the mysql database, then added a no-password account works:

mysql> grant INSERT on ktest4.* to 'u4'@'%';                    
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.05 sec)

but *WITH* a password fails:

mysql> grant INSERT on ktest4.* to 'uu4'@'%' identified by 'uu4';
ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'abc123@%' to database 'mysql'

My theory at the moment is that the failing command does an insert followed by an update to add the password.  So this may require 'UPDATE' privileges, but this scares me because then they would be able to update *any* user - even one for a different database.
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crackyCommented:
I must admit I have never found a need to give anyone other than root permissions to create users. I find that it's best to keep track of who your db users are and why they're being created.

Have you tried the same queries using abc123@localhost?

I just tested creating a user with usage only, but with grant option and had the same problem. I'd say that you need more privileges than is safe to give a normal user in order to let them create other users.

It might be best to make your users request new users through you instead of being able to create them themselves.
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red5Author Commented:
I was hoping to minimize my involvement once I got their db setup - my job is *not* database management and I don't want to get stuck spending too much time on it.   But it looks like it might not be possible to do exactly what I want.

I think I'm going to setup my script to create an additional user account for each new databse with only SELECT privileges to that database.  From there, the owner can grant INSERT or whatever privileges.
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