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The file 'Asms' on Windows XP home edition is needed".

In Win XP  Disc clean up I removed the "catlog files from the content indexer" to then find for some reason it removed essential windows files to make it run properly ?
Then when i rebooted i couldn't get back into windows therefore my only option was to load the winxp disc and carry out a repair via dos.
I got so far in the process and then got an error message "The file 'Asms' on Windows XP home edition is needed".
Copy files from: GLOBALROOT\DEVICE\CDROM0\I386

I have tried following the Article ID 311755 instructions on the microsoft page by firstly using a win98 start up disk to boot to disc and then copying the following files from WIN98 CD which i done sucessfuly as follows at the C: prompt
C: copy drive:\windows\smartdrv.*
C: copy drive:\windows\xcopy*.*

(THE FILES COPIED OVER OK)

But then this is when i get stuck. I have tried doing the following but am unsure if I'm doing it correctly ?
I did the following at the C: prompt
C: smartdrv
C: xcopy cd-rom:\i386 drive:\i386 /e

After I make these entries i get the following message :
"Does I386 specify a file name or directory name to the target" which when i choose "D" nothing happens and then when i choose "F" a lot of I386 files get moved.
I then restarted windows but got the same original error message ? I don't know if i did the above correct ?

Also how do i know if my hard drive is formatted with FAT file system or NFTS ?

Please Help ...I dont want to fresh reinstall windows as i have many docs that i don't want to lose which i haven't backed up !!!

Thanks
Mike




   
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Dale MaySecurityCommented:
Start Windows-XP
Find the location of your source files ( a folder called 'I386" , May be on your Install CD
Run WINNT32/unattend,,, For example, D:\i386\winnt32 /unattend (type this in the Run box, then press enter)

I've often needed to do this to repair something that had gotten corrupted and I didn't want to do a clean install.
d_may

To find out if you have FAT32 or the NTFS file system go to My Computer.>right click on "C" disc and click on properties.
This will tell you NTFS or FAT32 files system
best of luck, d_may
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TOC-FriedCommented:
The issue here is ASMS is a folder!

It's a sign of a scratched CD or faulty CD Drive or a memory issue.

Try running memtest86 then install / repair.
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TOC-FriedCommented:
Got another copy of XP lying around or a computer with a CD burner around? You should make a copy of your windows CD and use it for this. Your CD / CD Drive is probably scratched or memory issue.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
The problem is i cant actually get into windows because as originally mentioned when deleting the "catlog files from the content indexer" in disc clean up for some reason it removed essential windows files to make it run properly ? hence the repair therefore i need to do.
I can only get so far with my repair which is when i get the message The file 'Asms' on Windows XP home edition is needed".
Copy files from: GLOBALROOT\DEVICE\CDROM0\I386

This is how far i get ?

I must say my win xp disc does look fine.

Mike
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TOC-FriedCommented:
yeh ive seen that error all to many times. it's either memory... download and run memtest86 or any other respected dos mode memory test, check the cd drive or burn a copy of your xp cd... try memory first, it's only time wasted then.. take all your sticks out, and test each one, one by one until you see one that has errors, if there are none, but all your sticks back in, and do a copy of your xp cd.

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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
how do i do a memory download andrun memtest86 ?
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TOC-FriedCommented:
My regular site to send people who ask this question is www.google.it. But since you've got a big enough headache already, I'll let you slide.

The link for memtest86 is: www.memtest86.com 

It runs from a floppy, and the floppy won't be able to be reused after running this task. (The process writes a image to the floppy that won't allow windows to reformat it)

Test your memory stick by stick, for each test that memtest86 runs. If you find an error, put that stick aside, and test the others.

Once this is done, you'll find any (if any) faulty memory sticks.

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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
I take it i download the  2nd one below (Precompiled) ?

Download - Linux Memtest86 v3.2 Source and binary Package

or

Download - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.2 installable from Windows and DOS

also will it automatically read the disc in dos ?

when you say test your memory stick does this do th trick and will it find the errors autamatically ?
And when you say put an error stick aside what do you mean ?

Sorry to be a pain , this is all new to me ?

Mike  
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TOC-FriedCommented:
Ok, have you ever opened your computer case? If not, then don't. Just run the test using Precompiled memtest86 under windows and DOS, create a boot disk from that file - it'll prompt you.

If it finds a stick with an error, or errors (You will see the errors count go up in the memtest86 screen - it'll continually rise, but let it go.

After that's done, post back here, and tell us the out come of the test.  I can assist with instructions on memory removal if you feel up to it, otherwise you might need to take it to your local shop and ask them for removal. (I'm in aus, so it's only 8pm here)
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
OK...Stay with me on this one...
I've saved memtest86 to floppy so should i now boot with my XP boot disc or win98 boot disc with drivers.
and do i then just insert the memtest floppy and then
A: install (enter) ?

Mike    
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TOC-FriedCommented:
Nah, make the floppy and boot from it. Don't boot from Hard drive or CD, boot from floppy!
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
I think i may have missed something ?

all i've got on my floppy at the moment is the memtest86 - i've set my A drive (Floppy) to read first in the Bios but when i reboot with the memtest86 disc i get a message "remove disks or other media"      

I know the memtest is on the disc because when i boot with my win 98 boot disc and enter a:dir it shows the files.
i did actually a:install at this point and it did then do something and then prompted me to enter a formatted disc so is this then what i should have done ?

Mike
   

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TOC-FriedCommented:
hehe, dont do that.. just run the install program inside windows (using the pc your currently using) your not able to take the file its reading from to write the image to out of the computer.. (it needs to copy from one to another)

Do the disk creation on a pc that works, and then run the disk you make on your computer.

so at this stage, copy the files on the floppy you have to a folder on your desktop (the one that works) and then inside the folder you will find install, run install to create the floppy, take the floppy out, put it in your ruined machine and boot away.

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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
Ok ...now getting somewhere.

The test is currently running on my ruined pc ...
what info do you need ?

mike
 
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TOC-FriedCommented:
look at the column "Errors"

is it 0? i think it's a table with a few columns, do any of those say 0 ? one should be errors?
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
still running the test at the moment...
but so far I have 1 pass and 0 errors
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TOC-FriedCommented:
hmm k, what test number is it upto? seems good so far though!
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
test #6 moving inversions
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TOC-FriedCommented:
ok that seems pretty damned good, no errors up to here, your as good as safe. Get back into XP setup, and we'll continue from there.

You mentioned you were repairing your install cause you hadn't backed any files up. Your best bet here is to see if we can get to those files. Get back into setup and browse your CD, find the ASMS folder and hit OK.

Sorry about the waste of time that occured there, there isn't too much you can do until you know for sure it isn't memory.

If it does the same thing again, Try a copy of your XP CD, if you have nero on the PC your using now, just use it's CD Copy option and rip your XP CD to a new CD.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
When you say go back to XP setup do you mean run from the cd disk ...if so how do i browse the cd for the asms folder when in set up ?

Also the test hasn't finished yet shall i just stop it ?

Mike

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TOC-FriedCommented:
Yeh, that won't hurt anything. Just hit reset and it's as all good as stopped. Go back through setup entirely, and hit repair when you get the option as you did originally, get to the screen that asks for the location of ASMS and then browse using the browse button to find the ASMS folder.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
Thats the thing ...when i get to this point there is no browse option  ? there is only a drop down bar where i can input a location ..therefore I'm not sure what i should type in here ?  

Mike
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TOC-FriedCommented:
ohh ok.. that's a problem... is it still doing it?

Have you tried a copied CD. It's legal to make a backup copy of your XP cd, as long as you don't lend or give that copy to a mate. Otherwise check your CD clearly, and marks scratches or a see through effect? If so, try a bit of toothpaste on a tissue, give it a wipe over (GENTLY for originals) and then wipe it clean with another tissue. Place it back in the drive and hit ok. It's just your CD or CD Drive or windows being stubborn. Unfortunately, it's more of an annoyance then a problem.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
I'll give it a clean and retry...the thing is as well I have 2 cd rom drives and it won't take on either...give me 2 mins.
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TOC-FriedCommented:
say, did you copy your XP files to your hard drive ? If so, forget the CD, give it GLOBALROOT\DEVICE\HDD0\<FOLDER(S) TO XP FILES> This should do it!

If you didn't you can do that, insert your XP cd in your cd drive, boot from it, press 'R' at the first menu and type "xcopy D: (or your cd drive) C:\winxpsetup /e /c /h /k "

Then we can just specify your hard drives winxpsetup\i386 folder as the source for the files.
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TOC-FriedCommented:
Yeh, give it a go, 2 CD Drives, well both of those aren't faulty. I can wait 2 minutes, and while your doing that I'll prepare your bill - JUST KIDDING!
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
I really appreciate your help..i expect you want to go to bed ?

Just started win set up bit am unsure if i should use :
option 1 install win xp
or
Repair using recovery console  ?

Yesterday i chose option 1 which then at the next stage gave me the choice of repair...but when i did it just now it gave me the menu for partioning which i never had yesterday.....
I have 2 hard drives installed and my main drive is showing as partitioned and my other smaller hard drive unpartioned.
Its giving me the option to:
1,set up winxp on one of the items (enter)
2,create a partiotion in the unpartitioned space - press c
3,delete the partioned selection - press d
   
Should i go back to repair using recovery console or choose from one of the above ?

Mike




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TOC-FriedCommented:
Continue setup on your existing drive, answering another question from your original question, it should say on this screen if it's NTFS or FAT32, so take a look, remember it, hell post it here. If it's FAT32, we can back up some of your files to your second hard drive, copy all files to that same drive format C:\ and do a new install. If it's NTFS, unfortunately, I am not yet skilled in command line utilities that can read NTFS from a boot floppy.

If it's NTFS, choose to install over, don't format your drive, hit L to delete the existing windows install and continue from there. It's only 1am and I'm secretly developing a program whilst watching your reply emails pop in, so it's no worries.

Unfortunately, my test system got formatted a few days ago, and i reinstalled windows 2000 advanced server, otherwise I could give it all to you step by step. If it's FAT32, and you know where your files are, boot from a 98 boot floppy you have, back up all your files (if you know where they are) and I can provide further instructions from there.

It's not screwed until you say yes to a format, in which case you screw it and fix it all at the same time. Don't do this until we can't get a resolution though. Where theres a will theres a way, and as long as there is a will, your way can be reached.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
my smaller Hard Drive (D) is FAT 32.

my main one though (C) it doesn't state...and i have just noticed that on (C) it shows partioned 38154MB of which 38154 is (free) and then unpartitioned is showing 8mb.

Is this bad ?

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TOC-FriedCommented:
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TOC-FriedCommented:
As you can no doubt see from my sad face, it is bad news. It appears your drive has been partitioned again, and not formatted, you might as well as throw those back up plans above out the window. All is lost after you try and reinstall windows on that drive, and nothing will read it until it is formatted, and when it's formatted all your data hits a 50/50 chance of being recovered. It's lost.

There all tools on the market which can help you with recovery after you format, but for those to work effectively, we will need to know if it was NTFS or FAT32.

Here's a short way and a cut it sweet way of finding out if it was.

Did you upgrade from 98, or do a format and clean install with your XP CD. If you haven't formatted since 98, then your safe, it's FAT32, and I can email you a great program that will analyze your drive and recover the data (as long as you know where it was). Otherwise, NTFS will require some of the newer expensive tools.

Ask yourself this, are the files replaceable or very very valuable, if they are replaceable (MP3's etc) then forget em, you can rebuild your collection over time again. If it was all important WORD document's etc, then think even deeper. Are they critical. If you continue with an XP installation, theres a high risk that none of those files will be fully recoverable, no matter what you do.

Have a think about what was saved on the drive, including My Documents etc, and post back if you feel you can't live without, otherwise, it's a formatting we go.  
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
I guess this means although i havent formatted my drives, A format of some kind has taken place... :(

Does this mean a clean install...and if so will i probably still get the same ASMS error as before with my disc ?

Should i therefore now format both drives and reinstall win xp on the larger one or can i combine the 2 drives ?

Do you know what ..i think this all started when i done a reg clean with a reg clean programme and all of a sudden i had all these  "catlog files from the content indexer" in disc clean up which i then removed which i thought was safe !!!
I think this did the damage ?

What do you think ?

Mike  
 


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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
Its going to be a right pain in the butt...but although i did have important docs on it i think i can probably live without them :(

Its all those bleeding programs eg Nero, dvd2d, dreamweaver and all those  passwords for them in emails etc

What a pain !!
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TOC-FriedCommented:
No, Damage was suspectedly due to your lack of knowledge of Safe Mode's system restore. That's the first place I would send someone who did what happened to your machine.

I do feel sorry for your loss, and do sympathise that a network backup of those files (if they were mission critcal ) should have taken place.

But what's done is done. There is no way around this now. For the install to work properly, format C:, and install from that follow it all the way through and give that ago. It's just a matter of striking it right. I have seen that same ASMS error before, I always assumed it was my dodgy copy of XP or a memory issue or CD issue (after all it's only a file copy operation - and it's saying it doesn't exist) When it does!.

Any way, format your PC, leave all the partitions intact and do your install step by step until it completes. If it does the error again, see if you can hear it spinning in the drive, if so, then it's working right, and the issue is more deeper then I always thought.

No one is always correct 100% of the time, as the memory test ruled out earlier!

I'll be off to bed in around 30 minutes or so, and thus I'll still be here to see if it worked or not.. only takes 20 minutes to get to that stage for post computers.

Have fun, I'll stay in this question to help you further.

Jason.
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
Jason,

windows is now installing.....

Many thanks for your time and help.

I think i just learnt a lesson there !!

Thanks again.

Mike

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TOC-FriedCommented:
Wow, we've overlapped.

There's some great system imaging programs on the net that can take a image of your clean install with all your programs installed etc.. That can make this easier, but it's overkill for the home user. Just use system restore next time.

To get to system restore start your computer in safe mode:

hit F9 while your computer is starting up, hit it several times, before the XP starting screen is showing, jump into safe mode from the menu presented, and click no to the box that pops up.

Programs needed to keep a system happy:

Spybot S & D.
Anti Virus Program
Adaware SE

All of these are available for free from various sites on the net, googling will assist you in finding them. Anti Virus, I recommend Grisoft's AVG Free Edition (www.grisoft.com)

And if they fail, you can always restore your system to an earlier date using system restore.

My system takes me two days to get back on track after a re-install, and I have 4 drives, a DVD+/- RW and CD-RW for backing up all my projects, connected to a gigabit network for speedy transfer of all files to server drives should something severe go wrong and system restore can't fix it. Backup copies of XP Cd's with Service Pack 2 slip streamed, stored at two locations, with system images also readily available.

I never lose anything, I still think I have my old 95 start menu folder sitting on my server somewhere. All is safe, when I need something, I can get it hehe.

My setup is overkill, but I sit at my computer here in a converted garage turned bedroom for more then 110 hours a week with a laptop readily available when I don't want to get out of bed, and a baby screams behind me for a bottle that's sitting in a kettle for 3 minutes warming up. Me and my system have a strong bond. Something that we both share in common with the clones we have created all around the house with 8 other machines lying around for movie editing. (I turn over a lot of movies to P2P networks). My setup is the way I like it.

Net connections:

1 ADSL2 connection running at 10Mbps connected to two routers with a gigabit switch and a wireless access point linking all computers to the routers, two IP's, a WINS server, application server, and development sourcesafe server, many many possibilities with this network.


Enough about me, hell I think I've gone far enough hehe, just giving you an example of backup routines, and ways to avoid catastrophes.

Anyway. Hows setup going?
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TOC-FriedCommented:
Help is my specialty Mike.

It can't be fixed are the words of a coward or a liar. Anything can be fixed!

Jason.

My above post is not targeted at you in a manner that is to cause frustration or dismay, just an outline of how I do things so I don't lose so much as a KB of data.
 

"windows is now installing....."

Am I to take that as it's safely past the famous ASMS error?
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mpstevensAuthor Commented:
It's going fine at the moment.

You deffinateley got everything covered in your department.
I will take on board all of your advise..that is for sure.

Thanks

Mike
 
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ComputerCaretakerCommented:
I was able to get past the asms error by manually installing the ide controller driver and cdrom driver...

when you get the error message, press Shift+F10 for command prompt,
type devmgmt.msc and press enter
select the secondary IDE controller and update the driver
select the cd-rom drive and update the driver
restart setup
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