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GroupWise relay host - advanced user configuration
I have a client that is using GroupWise 6 as his email server. One of the users, because she deal with securities trading, needs to send and recievie all her email through specific POP and SMTP servers (for content review, archival & reporting purposes). Retreiving the mail from an external POP server is easy. Is it possible to configure th GWIA to user a relay host from some users and not use it for the rest? Anyone have any any brilliant ideas? Thanks!
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Hopefully this will clear it you question. I'm talking specifically about the GWIA being able to use a specific outbound relay host for a specific users/group of users and not for the rest of the company's email. All the special user's email has to flow through an email account outside of GroupWise server. That account is hosted by/at the brokerage firm that the client uses. The email account there doesn't provide any "forwarding" capability to get it to her normal GroupWise account so we have to go get it from the brokerage house's POP server. That part is easy. The hard part is sending just that user's email through the brokerage house's SMTP server and not the rest of the company's. Does that clear it up?
If I can't do this on the GroupWise IA/MTA, then I will have to put in some type of SMTP proxy server that has the ability to perform rules based relaying or have the user dump their GroupWise client in favor of one that I can configure a specific outbound SMTP server on (i.e. Outlook, Outlook Express, etc.).
If I can't do this on the GroupWise IA/MTA, then I will have to put in some type of SMTP proxy server that has the ability to perform rules based relaying or have the user dump their GroupWise client in favor of one that I can configure a specific outbound SMTP server on (i.e. Outlook, Outlook Express, etc.).
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Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. One question that I have: Can you deploy multiple GWIA's on one NetWare server or am I going to need to deploy another another "server" to do this?
No, you can't really deploy multiple GWIAs on one NetWare server. The issue is that while you can, in the GWIA Properties, tell a given GWIA what TCP/IP address to use when *sending* E-mail (on the SMTP/MIME tab, Settings panel, check the Bind to TCP/IP address at Connection Time box; and on the GroupWise tab, Network Address panel, specify the TCP/IP address), GWIA will *listen* on TCP Port 25 on *all* the server's IP addresses (the ones that exist when GWIA is loaded). So the first GWIA to load is going to grab that port on all IPs bound to the server, and the second GWIA to load is going to regard that as not acceptable and refuse to load.
You could Redmond Goldberg something together - for example, not bind the second IP address until after the first GWIA was loaded. You might be able to get the second GWIA to live with that (the first GWIA won't have bound to the second IP address since the second IP address didn't exist when it was loaded). I dunno, I've never tried that, because I think that's a very M$ (i.e. half-arsed) way of doing things.
Remember, GWIA can run on a buncha different platforms - 2 Linuxes, Solaris, even Windoze. Doesn't *have* to be NetWare. Ever used VMWare? You can run two virtual servers, each ignorant of the other, on the same hardware. And if the special GWIA is only for a few people, it doesn't need killer hardware - a single 400 MHz Pentium with 256 MB of RAM would be plenty. Remember, in a pinch (like the special GWIA's hardware dying), you can always redirect these few users out thru the "regular" GWIA.
You *can* run the GroupWise MTA and POA for the special Domain and Post Office on the same server as the existing Domain and Post Office. Its kinda messy, because you chew up a lotta RAM. And you need to be using NetWare v6.x (preferably NetWare v6.5) for the necessary memory management. And your MTP ports will deviate from the standard ones that the Agents like to use. But you can do it, especially if you assign a second IP address for the special Domain's agents to use.
You could Redmond Goldberg something together - for example, not bind the second IP address until after the first GWIA was loaded. You might be able to get the second GWIA to live with that (the first GWIA won't have bound to the second IP address since the second IP address didn't exist when it was loaded). I dunno, I've never tried that, because I think that's a very M$ (i.e. half-arsed) way of doing things.
Remember, GWIA can run on a buncha different platforms - 2 Linuxes, Solaris, even Windoze. Doesn't *have* to be NetWare. Ever used VMWare? You can run two virtual servers, each ignorant of the other, on the same hardware. And if the special GWIA is only for a few people, it doesn't need killer hardware - a single 400 MHz Pentium with 256 MB of RAM would be plenty. Remember, in a pinch (like the special GWIA's hardware dying), you can always redirect these few users out thru the "regular" GWIA.
You *can* run the GroupWise MTA and POA for the special Domain and Post Office on the same server as the existing Domain and Post Office. Its kinda messy, because you chew up a lotta RAM. And you need to be using NetWare v6.x (preferably NetWare v6.5) for the necessary memory management. And your MTP ports will deviate from the standard ones that the Agents like to use. But you can do it, especially if you assign a second IP address for the special Domain's agents to use.
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Thanks for the great information. We'll propose the options and see where they want to go.
FYI, EE has added a GroupWise TA --> https://www.experts-exchange.com/Applications/Groupwise/
Note that if you're using GWAVA or some similar tool to do the required Message Retention, it will NOT capture messages so relayed. You would need to employ a tool that used the 3rd-party directory in GWIA, not a tool that resides between the GWIA and the MTA.
What's all this POP/SMTP nonsense? Can she not use the GroupWise client?