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micron pc, win 98, will not even boot into bios

hello,

i have an old pc here.  it was functional, and then we thought the hard drive was dying because it wouldn't bood and it would just make noises that sounded like it was broken.

at the time, even after it really died, we were still able to get into the BIOS, or boot with a floppy and even read a cd thereafter.

however now we have a new hard drive, and this thing will not boot.  power turns on, fans spin, but the monitor never receives a signal and absolutely nothing happens.  i have tried many different master/slave type configurations, all to no avail.

any tips?  is the mother board bad too possibly?  what can i test next?
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nobusCommented:
i would startup with the minimum connected :

mobo + cpu, 1 ram stick, kbd and mouse, video card, 1 harddisk

if this gives no signal on the monitor, try another video card. you can also try with a cd drive connected, and witheout the disk. Once you have a screen, we can work further
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waffleironheadCommented:
have you tried an new power supply, there may not be enough juice left in the old one to get the hd spinning,

hth
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rshooper76Commented:
How large of a hard drive did you put in this machine.  Can the motherboard support it.  I a have seen older machines not boot with hard drives, and even memory sticks, that are too large for them to recognize.
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nobusCommented:
posting your specs can help
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amcorjonAuthor Commented:
ok i'll dig up the specs tonight.  we did call micron first to verify that it could handle a 120gb drive, they said yes.  i have already tried booting with only the minimal hardware as described.  i'll try another hard drive and then another video card and get back to you.

thanks!
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rshooper76Commented:
How old is that machine? I would check yourself on Microns website to see if there are any problems with a drive that large, even though the tech said it would work. Also trying a smaller hard drive is good idea like you mentioned.  If you are running Windows 98 I am asuming hte machien is pretty old, and thus the drive size limit issue comes to my mind.  Also, i'm sure you did this, but make sure you jumpered the drive correctly.
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nobusCommented:
in the older bios'es, there was a section auto detect ide drive, if it is there, you should run it first, before the bios will recognise your drive; also check if it is recognised normally (it should be set to LBA)
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amcorjonAuthor Commented:
ok i still dont have the specs, but i have tried a much smaller hard drive (smaller than the original 20GB drive).  also i tried booting with the minimal hardware, and it still wont even load video to see the bios.  also the video card is built-in to the motherboard, so swapping that is out.  i have tried numerous jumper combinations also.  
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nobusCommented:
if you have an old PCI video card, i would put it in, and give it a try.
Be sure you set all jumpers original again.
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amcorjonAuthor Commented:
i ended up getting another motherboard and flashing the bios with several different updates.  i was then able to start a windows installation but could only get so far - after the intial reboot during installation, windows would try to start, and display the Updating System Files prompt, then power would cut and the machine would reboot and loop there.  

We ended up taking it to a shop who somehow managed to get it to work with the old mobo.  *Frustration*

thanks anyway for the help....
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