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GroupWise 7 and Novell SBS...

Is Novell going to update their Small Business Suite to include GroupWise 7 instead of 6.5, and if so, when can this be expected?
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
Hey, I'm one of the first!
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ShineOnCommented:
I have no idea.  I would think that if they come out with a new version after 7 is released, that it would have 7.

Does upgrade protection only cover upgrades to the whole package or does it cover upgrades to the individual components?  If the latter, you could get the upgrade to 7 that way, but if the former, who knows?  Not me - I didn't go to BrainShare...

PsiCop?  Any inklings?
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PsiCopCommented:
Honestly, I dunno.

I suspect that the SBS Upgrade Protection covers the whole package and not the components individually. I which case, I would expect that SBS v6.5 will *not* have GroupWise v7 rolled into it. Instead, GroupWise v7 would appear in OES SBS or whatever they're going to call that.

I know that at least one more Support Pack is planned for GroupWise v6.5, so its development has not been halted. That's the main reason I expect SBS v6.5 to stick with GroupWise v6.5.
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
Well, there is already  an SBS 6.5, but there's also now a linux SBS which corresponds to OES. But as I understand it, the Netware part of OES is basically still 6.5. Seems to me there's a need to add value to the Netware SBS if they want to sell it alongside the Linux one, and GroupWise 7 would be a good way to do that.
So now the question becomes... do I wait a little longer to see what happens, or do I go ahead and get SBS 6.5?

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ShineOnCommented:
Wal, Linux SBS 9 comes with GW6.5 too.  You'll prolly have to wait for the next SBS to get Sequoia.
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
Good point.

Ugh.

I HATE having to wait for stuff...

Maybe if I go to Waltham and pound on the door they'll give me a free copy to make me go away... :)

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PsiCopCommented:
*chuckle* I had the GroupWise Product Manager and the Development Manager cornered (more or less) at BrianShare during "Meet The Experts" night. They were more slippery than a greased Micro$oft sales rep. All they would say about when GroupWise v7 would be released was "Summer 2005". When I pointed out that "Summer" started June 21st and ended September 21st and then asked "2nd Quarter or 3rd Quarter?", they squirmed some more, but still wouldn't change their answer. Not even off-the-record (the CIA should hire these guys).

Keey an eye on the Public Beta page (http://www.novell.com/beta/index.jsp) - I'd be surprised is GroupWise v7 was not on there in the next 30 days.
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PsiCopCommented:
And you'd have better luck if you went to Provo - nuthin' but suits in Waltham. :-)
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PsiCopCommented:
And yes, NetWare v6.5 SP3 is essentially OES-NetWare. There's less difference between NetWare and Linux than you might imagine. They're both POSIX-compliant, for example. There's a gcc (GNU Compiler Collection) for NetWare, and there's no reason you couldn't take any *NIX program that can be compiled under gcc and compile it on NetWare and have it run. They did a lot of work on NetWare.
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
Hmm, maybe now the PostGRESQL project for Netware will wake up again. Having to use CodeWarrior was really  problematic for distribution purposes.
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PsiCopCommented:
Actually, I think it was just announced (don't remember where I saw it - one of the trade rag sites) that Postgres SQL was just certified on SUSE.
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
Yeah, but I've got PostGRES on Linux already. I want it on Netware :)
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ShineOnCommented:
It's the Pervasive Postgres that was YES certified for SuSE.  The PostgreSQL on NetWare project is still active, somewhat, but the current released code is based on PostgreSQL 7.2.4, which is a couple of years old.  Pervasive doesn't seem to be interested in the NetWare port for their distribution.
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PsiCopCommented:
And with the release of OES, I would expect Pervasive to maintain that attitude towards NetWare.
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billmercerAuthor Commented:
That's ok, Pervasive's on my dookie list anyway. What is it about software companies from Texas?
 
As I recall, the biggest obstacle to the PostGRES port for netware gaining recognition by the PostGRES community was the licensing restrictions on the header files or some such.

Personally, I'd like to see Firebird on Netware.


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DSPooleCommented:
official release of Sequoia:

July 28th.

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ShineOnCommented:
EnterpriseDB is another PostgreSQL commercial release... also not likely to port to NetWare, but at least they're not Pervasive...;)
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