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FrontPage 2002 Frames and SEO

I am trying to optimise my website;

www.dieselhousestudios.com

Please advise if, as part of an SEO programme I should remove 'frames' from my site and use a table of contents (which I would like visible at all times to aid navigation) which may navigate my way round this problem?  Please also recommend some places where I would find such software.
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davidascott
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hhammashCommented:
Hi,

If the frames are in the index of default page they affect SEO.  

If it is important for you to have frames on the index page,  try putting the description in all meta tags of the frames pages.  The content,  the top, the left and the container.

hhammash
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duzCommented:
davidascott -

Don't use frames, if there is a particular feature of frames that you like just use CSS instead. Good CSS tutorial here http://www.w3schools.com/css/

As part of your "SEO programme" I suggest you read through this free SEO tutorial very carefully http://www.seo-guy.com/tutorial.html

- duz
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humeniukCommented:
"Please advise if, as part of an SEO programme I should remove 'frames' from my site . . ."

Absolutely.  There are ways to finesse things to try to make your frames page a little more search engine friendly, but as always the workaround is never as effective as doing things right in the first place.  If you're serious about SEO - and unless you're developing an intranet site, you should be - it should be factored into your website from the design stage onward.  (see tutorial above)

From a design perspective, you would do well to take the approach that hhammish outlined above - only use frames if absolutely necessary.  Another design factor that you may want to consider - and this impacts SEO as well - is the fact that FrontPage writes notoriously bad code.  It is bloated, isn't cross-browser friendly, and certainly isn't standards compliant.  As duz noted, CSS is a vastly superior solution, but you'll probably need to give yourself a back-to-basics lesson in HTML as well.  The w3schools site is great for that, too - www.w3schools.com/html/.
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davidascottAuthor Commented:
Thanks humeniuk and thanks duz,

Is there a way where I could write the basic code in FrontPage and then get this checked over by someone to tidy it up before publishing, using css code of course?

Finally, (alternatively) is there a good application that can produce good css code that I could use instead of FrontPage, which I wouldn't mind doing, just to speed up my immediate needs/learning.  This would be a quick fix whilst I use your excellent links above to bring myself up to speed and so I can start building or rebuilding my site?

Best,
David
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humeniukCommented:
Hi David,

"Is there a way where I could write the basic code in FrontPage and then get this checked over by someone to tidy it up before publishing, using css code of course?"

Theoretically, yes.  Practically, no.  You'll find that the 'tidy it up' job is more work than rebuilding the page from scratch.

In regards to your other question (regarding an alternative app), Macromedia Dreamweaver (www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/) is a vastly superior to FrontPage, but it still is just a WYSIWYG editor and thus is inherently limited as well.  I should confess, though, that I use DreamWeaver (to some degree) in the fashion you are referring to.  For example, I use it to quickly generate the PHP <--> MySQL scripting for database driven sites and then double check everything and fine tune if/when necessary.  Admittedly, it saves a lot of typing time.  However, in terms of generating HTML code and CSS style sheets, it's not entirely reliable and ends up being easier to code by hand than it is to point & click and then edit.

One last thing - switching from one approach to another and unlearning the way you've been doing things is difficult and frustrating at times.  And the world doesn't stop moving while you go through this process.  Having been through it myself, though, I can assure you that at the end of the day, you'll have no regrets.
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