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Moving users/computers/mailboxes from SBS 2000 to new Windows 2003 forest

I need to move about 35 users with Exchange mailboxes, 50 computers, and about 50 gigs of data from a Small Business Server (SBS) 2000 box to a new Windows 2003 domain in a seperate forest.  There's about 16 gigs of mail to move.

What is the best way to move all of this stuff between these forest, with the least amount of work possible?  I'd like to use a wizard-based tool (I don't care if it's a non-Microsoft tool as long as it's not many thousands of dollars) and I need to retain permissions, so the new accounts should retain SID history.

I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to do this painlessly.
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eatmeimadanishCommented:
You need to create a domain trust between the two domains and connectors for the exchange servers.  Then you can move mail through Active Directory.
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
Normally I would agree, but doesn't SBS have a limitation in that it does not support domain trusts?
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joedoe58Commented:
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
The problem with that article is that it reads:  

"Using Migration Pack for Small Business Server 2000 to upgrade the Small Business Server 2000 to regular Windows 2000 Domain.          
http://www.microsoft.com/sbserver/techinfo/deployment/2000/MigrationPack.asp"

And that link doesn't work.  Where can I get this migration pack?
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joedoe58Commented:
As you can see in the article further down the migrationpack is used for SBS 2k to w2k for SBS to w2k3 it is another method without migrationpack
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alimuCommented:
joedoe58 - the directions you've given are for shifting an sbs domain to w2k3 domain ??

visioneer - the forest boundary in AD (in this case your SBS server) = the exchange boundary.  
Installing (or moving) exchange to a different forest will require you to go through all the steps you would normally go through for a new exchange installation - i.e. running forestprep, domainprep, etc to update the schema and create an exchange organisation for that forest.
I don't think this is going to be a pain-free process for you.

I've tried to round up some exchange gurus for you at http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Email_Groupware/Exchange_Server/Q_21413392.html
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joedoe58Commented:
Well was that not what he wanted? What I understand from this question is that he do want to move from SBS to regular w2k3.
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alimuCommented:
:) I think we actually need clarification from the asker here... even I'm confused now, I thought they were just talking about the exchange portion.
Visioneer?
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
I'm not sure where the confusion lies.  Let me try again. :)

We have an SBS 2000 server running Exchange.  We want to rip that out and replace it with several new Windows 2003 servers.  I'm looking for the easiest way to get the users, computers and mailboxes off the SBS 2000 server and onto the new 2003 servers, removing SBS from the equation altogether.

Some of the instructions I've seen so far indicate that if you /forestprep and /domainprep you can then add a Windows 2003 domain controller to the domain and sieze all the roles.  However, my understanding was that you cannot have any additional DCs in an SBS domain.  Am I wrong?  Because if I can add Windows 2003 DCs to the domain and sieze roles, and add another Exchange server to the same site, then I can just migrate using the standard swing method and be done with it.
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joedoe58Commented:
As far as I understand from the info from Microsoft you are not able to do that with a SBS domain. In the article that I previously linked to you can see that you can add another domain controller to the domain (as long as it is not root) but then they say that you should export the users.
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
That doesn't make sense.  If I can add another DC, then that DC already contains the Active Directory, so there's no point in exporting the users because they're already there..  In theory I should be able to detach the SBS server from the network and then seize all the roles on the new DC.
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alimuCommented:
I think Dave's answer here will clarify things a bit as far as "moving to a new forest" goes:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Windows_Server_2003/Q_21164428.html?query=sbs+to+domain&clearTAFilter=true

and yes, now that I have it straight in my head what you're after, joedoe58's KB is the correct one to look at (*sorry*)
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joedoe58Commented:
No problem
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
I'm going to try the migration in the next week or two and will be able to provide feedback at that time.
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alimuCommented:
thx - much appreciated.
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alimuCommented:
how'd the migration go visioneer?
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visioneerAuthor Commented:
We ended up recreating the accounts by hand and using the Exchange migration wizard.
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