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Free Backup Software?

Anyone know of any decent open source backup software for Windows?

I have a client that bought a Certance 40GB USB2 Tape Drive and both the software that came with it (TapeWare) and NTBackup are terrible programs to have to train a client to look at to see if the backups are ok... they suck!

I am looking for a no nonsense easy to use, easy to check logs, program that will do backups of local disks on this system. Any ideas?

Extra points because I want some fast and good feedback here! : )
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conradie
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I look forward to seeing if anyone can come up with one, but outside of scripting something with ntbackup and other utilities you may already have, I don't know of any such product.
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conradieAuthor Commented:
Well the idea is to make it somewhat user friendly, so I dont think that scripting is the way to go. I would like to be able to hand over responsiblity of checking that the backups have run etc to a user onsite. If the program were easy to use and navigate then that would be possible. But the only one I know of like this (backup exec) isnt exactly cheap.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Scripting can be easy.  I have a script that I wrote for one of my clients that uses predefined NTBackup sets and backs up the data.  Then it sends an e-mail with the logs to a pre defined email address.
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craylordCommented:
I would have to agree with leew, scripting with ntbackup is the way to go. Just configure your tape to be ejected when everything is done in the script. If the client sees the tape still sitting in the drive the next morning, something happened and it didn't complete. :) Or as leew suggested, have the script send an email. blat is a program that can accomplish the email part. If you want to schedule it automatically, follow these directions.
Start > Run > ntbackup (enter)
Click the Advanced hypertext.
Select the Backup tab.
Check the system state, drives, folders, subfolders and files that you want to be backed up with this .bks file.
After you've made your choices, go to the Job drop down menu and choose Save selection as.. name it and save it somewhere easy to remember. i.e. c:\backup.bks
Create a batch file and use the Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Scheduled Tasks that will run the batch file. The batch file will run ntbackup using the newly created backup.bks


Here's our "monday1.cmd" batch file.
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net stop ntmssvc
sleep 30
net start ntmssvc
sleep 120
rsm.exe refresh /lf"Hewlett Packard LTO Ultrium-1 drive"
sleep 30
rsm.exe refresh /lf"Hewlett Packard LTO Ultrium-1 drive"
sleep 30
start /wait rsm refresh /lf"Hewlett Packard LTO Ultrium-1 drive"
sleep 30
c:\WINNT\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@c:\backup.bks" /n "monday 1 - full backup" /d "Daily backup produced on %date% at %time%" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:on /m normal /j "THE_NAME_OF_THE_TAPE" /l:s /t "THE_NAME_OF_THE_TAPE"
sleep 120
rsm eject /PF"THE_NAME_OF_THE_TAPE - 1" /astart
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DanielcmorrisCommented:
COBIAN BACKUPS
COBIAN BACKUPS
COBIAN BACKUPS
COBIAN BACKUPS
COBIAN BACKUPS

http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cbu6.htm

By far the best free .... no, just the best backup program I've used.  I have it pull data off of my client's servers, zip it up, encrypt it, and FTP it to my bacup servers in California.

It takes about 1 minute to set up and it takes about 2 minutes to figure out how to use it.

I've thrown out all of my old batch scripts.   all of them.
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craylordCommented:
Nice program Danielcmorris. I checked the website, but couldn't find anything regarding it's interaction with tape drives. Have you used it with tape drives? It looks like an excellent network backup solution.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Nice looking program.  I downloaded and installed it and it definitely has some uses.  However, the big problem with it, to me, is that it doesn't appear to support system state backups.  These are crucial for 2000/XP/2003 restores of the OS.  Also wasn't clear it backed up security information.
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DanielcmorrisCommented:
oops.  Nope, it can't do that.  

To be honest, I'm just a database/web developer.  My backups are strictly my own company's data, I sub out all of our IT work to a partner company.  they'd be the one's working at that level.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

(still, that cobian tool is very handy)
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Not a problem - it's a good looking tool that definitely has uses - thanks for posting about it.  If it were my question, I'd give you an assist in the end...
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conradieAuthor Commented:
That IS a great program. Its a program to watch thats for sure- looks like with the open architecture its inevitable that it will support tape drives at some point- maybe on linux? Actually I may even use this as part of the solution- to get all the client machines data onto the backup machine to then perform local backups. Up to now I have been using robocopy in a script on each workstation.

Anyway, I may have to resort to scripts for the backup, even stick with NTBACKUP maybe, but I would like to keep this open for a bit and see if any other ideas come out.

Thanks guys!
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DanielcmorrisCommented:
My clients actually pay me $10/month to install that on their machine and have their "My Documents" stored on remote machines.  :)  the next version allows FTP over SSL.


Scripts, however, are always the most flexible.  NTBACKUP, no matter how many people complain about it, is also a great utility.  My advice about scripting is to make 100% sure that you make them standardized, and well commented.

Also, if you can, have them update a master file and then have a master script that sends you an email listing all the machines that were SUPPOSED to be backed up and whether they did or not.  

I was getting about 20 emails a day from various email backup systems.  If it failed, it would still send me one.... unless it failed really really badly, in which case, I just wouldn't hear about it.  And i wouldn't even notice until someone called and asked why their company couldn't get email.

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Ron MalmsteadInformation Services ManagerCommented:
Data Protection Manager 2006 Beta
A disk based backup and recovery application

New from microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=45ccb79e-b701-46d4-848a-f83119f9b222&displaylang=en

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DanielcmorrisCommented:
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craylordCommented:
Good post on the DPM. Afraid to think about how much it'll cost. Now to find a server with a couple TB's of free disk space..
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conradieAuthor Commented:
Thanks for all the input so far, again. Still hoping there will be that perfect program out there- open source or freeware and just PERFECT. But that may not happen... if you guys are ok with it then I will leave this open for a bit. Maybe I should throw some more points in the pool to elicit more responses? : )
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conradieAuthor Commented:
Added 200 Points to the pool. Anyone?
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craylordCommented:
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Freeware/Backup/

I would check this out, don't have enough time to look at each program but there is a description for each.
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craylordCommented:
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DanielcmorrisCommented:
I'm still stickin' with Cobian  :)
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craylordCommented:
Well, that being said, ntbackup ntbackup ntbackup its the best if it cant do it
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craylordCommented:
use xcopy yeaahh
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ShajeeSaysCommented:
hi

try these site hope you would find what you are looking for

http://mirrors.pair.com/

http://www.nonags.com/nonags/diskbk.html

Another one is NasBackup

NasBackup is an open source backup solution. It is high-performance software for backing up MS Windows desktop PCs, laptops and servers to network disks. NasBackup is a highly configurable solution and easy to install and maintain.

NasBackup is a backup solution that can replace traditional tape backup. The information is backup to network storage, in a way that only the file differences are send over the network.

NasBackup is freely available as Open Source.

http://www.nasbackup.com/

Best Regards
Shajee
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nltechCommented:
it's not open source, but it's a breeeeeze to use.. and it's inexpensive...

novabackup 7.2 from novastor

http://www.novastor.com/pcbackup/backup/n_backup.html

it should work with the 40gb certance usb2 drive, it works with the 20gb model.
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rindiCommented:
conradie,

No comment has been added to this question in more than 21 days, so it is now classified as abandoned..
I will leave the following recommendation for this question in the Cleanup topic area:
Split: leew, craylord, Danielcmorris

Any objections should be posted here in the next 4 days. After that time, the question will be closed.


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conradieAuthor Commented:
Alright I closed it.... Thanks to all who contributed. I am sorry I couldnt give a little more points to all, but we never did find that PERFECT program yet.... I may open this back up at some point... : )
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