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want to use a new graphics card

i am going to buy a new graphics card with an s-video out , but before i do that i want to make sure it is the best path.

i have a compaw presario 5140

i have heard putting in a new graphics card to my motherboard will not get much great value in terms of gaming, but all i want is an svideo out slot so i can connect to tv...

should i

a) install a new motherboard and then buy a new graphics card

b) just install the new graphics card on the old motherboard

>>>i want really good quality so if i am going to lose quality in b let me know!!
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CallandorCommented:
A PII-400?  I wouldn't want to spend much at all to gain s-video out.  A new modern one would probably have conflicts with that motherboard, so go for an old video card, like a Radeon 9000.  A new motherboard would require new RAM and new power supply, so you might as well buy a new system if you're going that route, and decent new systems can be had for $500.
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cougar694uCommented:
You need to find out what port you have on your mother board.  If it's a PII, you'll need to check if it's PCI, or if it has AGP.  If it does have AGP, you need to find out if it's 2x, 4x, etc.

You can buy a new video card and it will be greatly beneficial to your gaming (been there).  If you do, though, you need to make sure the new card you buy is backwards compatible with your current AGP slot.  The radeon is a good card like ^^^ said.  It will help as it processes the video and takes some of the strain off your CPU.

This way, if you decide to build a new PC later, you can still use this video card in the new system.

Either way, you'll be satisfied by adding a new video.
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cougar694uCommented:
Another thing that'll help with gaming is your RAM.  How much do you have?

Also, you're not going to lose quality by installing a new video card.
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finnstoneAuthor Commented:
i have a new motherboard alreaedy, it was rated high by a quality site, motherboard.org or something, should i put that in my old computer with the same hookups and then buy a new video card?

sounds like a new video card with old motherboard wont work

no AGP on old mother
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CallandorCommented:
> no AGP on old mother

In that case, since you already have a new motherboard, you might as well start getting use out of it and buy a new video card.  The Radeon 9000 will put up a good picture for low cost - I use it for my front projector.
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cougar694uCommented:
You'll need to check to make sure the new motherboard will fit in there.  Since the old machine is a Compaq, there is a chance that it's proprietary and that it won't fit.  You can pull the old one out and put the new one in to see, but be careful in doing so.

If it fits, great, get a good video card and you're on your way.  If it doesn't fit, buy a new case and transplant all the other hardward from the old machine to the new case with the new mother board and you're ready to go.
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maimon22Commented:
its a wast of money to spend on good card and yes for sure you will lose the quality and you wont enjoy it even on this pc
i would recommend to buy a 440 mx video card it is 64MB and has video out and i think it is perfect for your computer
http://search.ebay.com/Nvidia-Geforce4-Mx-440_W0QQfkrZ1QQfnuZ1QQxpufuZx
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finnstoneAuthor Commented:
maimon, i was going to go with cougars advice but yuour comments concenr me, why would it be a waste if i am using a new motherboard that i will install and still use the p2 400 and a new graphics card!?
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finnstoneAuthor Commented:
my motherboard is ax4spe max 2, will that work with my computer?
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cougar694uCommented:
> my motherboard is ax4spe max 2, will that work with my computer?

There's only one way to find out.  You'll have to open up your current machine, look and see if you think it will fit.  You can kinda place it above the old one to see.

However, the CPU will not work.  The P-II is a Slot 1, where as this new motherboard is a Socket 478 (P-4).  Also, the RAM is most likely different.  I don't recal any P-II motherboards with DDR memory slots, but your new motherboard has DDR slots on it.

Things you'll need if it fits in the Compaq case:

New CPU
New RAM
Video Card

Things you'll need if it does NOT fit:

New ATX Case
New CPU
New RAM
Video Card

What you can do if it does NOT fit:

Buy a new video card for the current machine and save your money to buy a new CPU, RAM, and case.
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cougar694uCommented:
If I were you, I'd buy a new video card and put it in your current machine.  This WILL help gaming.  Then, when you get the money, buy CPU & RAM.  You can see if the motherboard fits in your old case.  If it does, you're in business with your P-4.  If not, buy a new case, and you're in business anyway.
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mysticaldanCommented:
Get any video card thats older than 2 years with an S-video out. Get an ATI 7xxxx series or get a plain old Sis 6326 or any card u feel like.

Check here for an old card that shud work fine for you :
http://www.dumpinggoods.com

You might also wanna visit a computer store in ur neibhorhood to get an older card that might be availbe l for $10 or less.

Another that is said to work with ur system is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142021

You can see that the specs work fine with ur system so give it a shot.

Dan
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CallandorCommented:
As I said in my first post, a new motherboard will require new RAM and a new power supply.  P4 motherboards require a special 4-wire power connector that the P-II motherboards don't have.  You might as well get a new case and ensure that the motherboard will be fully utilized.  I bet the back plane will be different enough that it won't work with the existing case, either.
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finnstoneAuthor Commented:
thanks all, i am going to award points now..will probably try mysticaldans suggestion first , if quality is not up to par i will be investing in all sorts of new equipment and building a new computer.

one final question, why new RAM?
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cougar694uCommented:
Your old motherboard has 128 pin SDRAM, your new one was has 184 pin DDR slots.  Two completely different physical types.
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