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Sharing files between a PC running XP and a Mac running Tiger

HI,

my question is this;

how do i share files between a Mac and a pc using a direct link ethernet cable?

we have a wireless network through a router in our house that we use for the computers to connect to the internet.. the mac works fine on this on the internet and sharing files with my pc but the transfer speed is very slow! taking 30mins to transfer 200mb..

this can be expected..

i just lately bought a direct link crossover ethernet cable and have been trying without sucess to connect the ibook and pc together directsly to share files..

i cannot make it work.. i don't understand the fact that the ibook is in workgroup on wireless but not on ethernet..

please can somene gide me through this procedure.

thanks
Chris*
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
      Once your two machines are connected, have you tried to use "Connect to Server"  hitting Command-K on the Mac and placing smb://IP Address/sharename   of your windows computer.      Going the otherway you would need to turn Windows Sharing on  on the Macintosh and then connect to the Mac Share from the Map a network drive on the PC.
      Have you tried both of these?

Wireless and ethernet are seperate network connections, and do not really have anything to do with one another.    Try and see if one of the above items, or both for that matter, work for you.

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
i have tries the first option but the mac keeps not connecting..  (is it a X-over cable i need?)

i dunno weather its the pc or mac not communicating..

have tried both methods suggested above i think i need to make the pc run a server for the mac to connect to?

i don't have a clue what to do really..

i just had a mate round who tried what he does at home to make it work but the mac wouldn't connect to the pc..

hmm.
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
      Ahh, I misread your first sentence.   I read that it was a cross over cable, and now I see that you say it is direct.     The Mac itself should be able to determine if it is X-over or not, however, I do not believe PC's can, at least I have not seen them able to.    So the answer is yes, you would need to get a X-over ethernet cable.

      Is this something that you are wanting to do longterm or continuously?   If not and you just want to transfer files every now and then, you may want to consider getting an external FireWire device and moving data back and forth from there.    Another option is using your mac to burn the files on to a CD-RW assuming you have an internal drive that can do that, which I would guess that you do.   So those are options, if it is not a continuous thing that you want.     I will continue to help you with the original issue though, and I do believe that you need to get a X-Over ethernet cable.

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
ok thankyou..

i have already ordered an external firewire drive for the mac, will the pc be able to read the drive?

if so that will solve my problems as i can use to drive to transfer the files..

otherwise i will need to continue trying with the ethernet. [i have and X-over cable and that is what i was using to try and network]

the reason i want to do this is that the laptop has no dvd burner and when i need to transfer large files across to the pc for burning i have no quick way of doing it.

im kind of stuck for what to do now.

also how do i map a network drive in XP i can't find the option..

Chris*
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ryan_summersCommented:
Are both the Mac and PC setup with a static ip address for the ethernet or does it grab it automaticly?

On the mac you can check this by going to Apple-System Preferences-Network
Doubleclick on the Ethernet option
If it says "Using DHCP" you need to change this to Manually and put in an ip address that's different from the wireless one.  192.168.54.10 should work.  

On the PC goto Start-Settings-Network Connections and choose the Local Area Connection
This should bring up a window that has "properties" as a button.  click on this.  
Doubleclick on Internet Protocol
If it says "Obtain an IP address Automaticly" you need to chnage this to Use the following IP Address: and put in an ip address.  (different from the mac)  ie: 192.168.54.20

It seems like you were able to transfer files back and forth through the wireless router so you should be good to go now.  Select Connect to server on the mac and put in 192.168.54.20
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
i have tried that with the ips 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2

and the mac failed to connect to server...

couls this be something to do with not telling the pc its supposed to be a server???

i have no knowledge in this area.. i can set up through router but not like this it seems to not work...

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ryan_summersCommented:
Are you able to ping back and forth between the computers?

If it works through the router then as long as you have a network connection between the two it should work.
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
yea it works through the router ryan_summers but its wireless and takes days to transfer large files so im trying to connect the computers directly through ethernet.. but im having trouble with it!

Thanks Chris*
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
      I have an email that is ready and has been ready to send to you from my computer at home.  I apparently never hit the send button, and I am sorry about that.

   To map a network drive on a PC you first need to turn on Windows File Sharing on the Mac.    On the PC right click on My Computer (on the desktop) and select Map Network Drive.    Select a drive letter that is not used, select Reconnect at login, if you always want it up.   Put in the IP address from the Ethernet side, not the Wireless side, in this format.   \\IP Address\sharename or maybe even try just \\IP address

     Also try pinging as Ryan was asking the Ip addresses from both the Mac and PC to the other.   So if 10.0.0.1 is the "Ethernet" IP address  NOT WIRELESS IP Address on the Mac and 10.0.0.2 on the PC, do the following.   From the Mac ping 10.0.0.2 and see if there is a response.   From the PC ping 10.0.0.1 and see if there is a response.   Please respond with the results.     You may need to turn the Wireless part off temporairily if they do not work together for you.   If you do need to do that.  Copy all of the info of the Wireless portions of both computers so you can enter them back in if needed, in case something happens.    Remember you also would need to change the PC to use Ethernet as well,  PC's I believe can not use both Wireless and Ethernet at the same time, but Mac's can at least in theory.

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
thanks mate i got it workin!!!

i had to disable the wireless network on pc and mac..

then just went to my network places and it worked out cool

i think i will have to copy whatever i want to transfer into the home folders on the mac... at the moment i have been copying into movie folder to transfer over network..

anyway Thanks its working now...

:)
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
    You are welcome and I am glad all is workin for you.

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
thanks..

laters..

ps do u know if my pc will read a mac firewire drive?

if i install mac opener i have heard it may work?
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
     When you get the firewire drive, before doing anything, see if both of your machines can see it and write to it.   If that is the case, which is what I expect then you are good.   If you can't, then follow this.

http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@763.MrwLaLOQVJ3.687399@.68af87c8

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
    Actually, if you need to do anything, instead of following the above link, which should be okay anyway,   try this link from here about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down, it explains that type of stuff and I think better.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Macintosh_Networking/Q_21419253.html

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
so this is before formating it?

ok thanks allot
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
        When you get the drive from the store or thru mail.   Just try to hook it up to both computers and see if it works.   If it works, like I expect it to you will not need to do anything.    If it does not work read the discussions in the two links above and go off of them.   My guess is you will not need to read them.
   
     No Problem.


Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
ok i have a quick read of it and it seemed ok, but i hopin it will work..

im worried about the 4gb file size mentioned on the link..

thanks though i will get back to u..
thanks.
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sgstuartCommented:
Hi Chris,
      I would disregard the 4GB size that was mentioned, I do not think that is the case.     Basically, just the parts on how to setup/format the drive is the only part you would need to worry about,  and like I have said hopefully, you would not need to do that, just like Laura did not need to in the second link.

    Good Luck.

Thanks,
Steven Stuart
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chrisdoneyAuthor Commented:
ok thanks mate i will report back when i recieve the drive and try it out..

ta!
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