Backup Local Users and Groups

Is there anyway to backup local users and groups on Windows Server 2003? The server is not on a domain so USMT is out and system state is very messy for usage with new hardware is there any other option?
webfirmAsked:
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Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
A workgroup server, eh?  If you are looking for redundancy, you could mirror the drive, which would be the most effective, and have the least overhead.  Additionally, you could ghost an image to a Media Drive, but this may be too much administrative overhead in the long run, if you need to keep it up to date..

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Dmitri FarafontovLinux Systems AdminCommented:
Or you can use RAID 5, but than you would need at least 3 hard drives. In any event one of them fails. The information will be recalculated once, the spare one is inserted again.
webfirmAuthor Commented:
The server is actually a webserver hosting many websites the local users and groups are used for FTP authentication etc... we have the drives mirrored. Im just working on a disaster recovery plan i need to be able to move the users and groups to new hardware in event of failure. System State is too messy i need other options.
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Dmitri FarafontovLinux Systems AdminCommented:
You can use Norton Ghost to create an image of your partitions and store it in the safe place on a DVD or a File server.
webfirmAuthor Commented:
Yeah it may be an option im havnt used Ghost a great deal can you move a ghost image to different hardware with Windows Server 2003 without SAM issues etc..?
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
No, you cannot move a ghosted image to new hardware, although I did recommend it in my first comment..  you will BSOD because of the different controllers..

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Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
If this is a commercial enterprise, you should consider a SAN / NAS storage, and use it for your backups.  You could use Fiber Channel for connecting, which will give you high bandwidth and fast access..

FE
grayeCommented:
I've got a set of tools that we use to record the existing local users, groups, filesystem, and NTFS permissions on a group of servers.

It doesn't actually "backup" the data in the strictest sense of the word, since there is no "restore" capability.  Instead it just records the users, groups, files, and permissions into a database.  The contents of the database are an integral part of our disaster recovery plan.

The tools are available as VB.Net source code only, so you'd have to use Visual Studio .Net 2003 to compile into EXE files.

Let me know if you're interested...
webfirmAuthor Commented:
Yeah i will certainly have a look, recovering the password is the biggest obstacle we have only just begun recording the usernames and passwords offsite for the reason that there is no way that I know of to restore them apart from manually entering them in
grayeCommented:
Hummm... it appears that I might have dropped the ball on providing a follow up URL to get the source I offered.

The program is called List_ACLs and the VB.Net source is at http://home.hot.rr.com/graye/AdminTools.htm
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