Linking a Apple G5 to the internet via a PC ADSL modem

I know NOTHING about Apples, so excuse me if this question is dumb.

An Apple G5 has recently arrived at my house, and it needs to be connected to the internet.  I currently have a PC that is connected using ADSL via a USB broadband modem.  The G5 has a USB connection port and also a wireless feature called AIRPORT. How can I connect the G5 to the internet via my PC's connection?

I've been looking at wireless internet options recently ( http://www.ozenda.com/ProductDetails.asp?PRDT_ID=2 ) as I'm also looking for a laptop PC, so if this approach can be used as the solution for all please recommend it.
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Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
hmm..  wifi is wifi..  purchase a wifi Access Point (perhaps a linksys).  I am also sure that your Apple must have an RJ45 port somewhere, and you could use this to connect to a router (that has the requisite interfaces).

Either way, you need a router to share your connection...  (I do not recommend you use ICS and share the connection from your existing PC)

FE
RouchieAuthor Commented:
Okay the linksys product will probably be something like this I guess - http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=601

Is RJ45 the standard network port used for 10/100mbps networks?  If so, I'll have to take a look tonight.

What do you mean "...use ICS and share the connection..."?  Can you tell me what ICS is?
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
Correct.  RJ45 is the type of connector/terminator used on CAT5/e wires, and is used to connect to ethernet ports.  Some consumer grade routers come with only one ethernet port.  Make sure you purchase one with more than 1 port.

ICS stands for Internet Connection Sharing..  Used if you have a PC with 2 NICs installed, which will provide the routing functions through the PC.  Not a reliable way to go, especially with routers being so inexpensive these days...

FE
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RouchieAuthor Commented:
Now, the G5 is in a different room to the PC, so they need to connect via wireless options.   Can I get a wireless router that is compatible for both PC and Apple Mac?

Can you tell me what hardware/software I'll need to fix up the whole system?  Once again, my knowledge of Apples and Networks is almost zero so please keep it simple!!
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
It has been about 8 months since I set one up (Apple), but yes, the Linksys AP does support AppleTalk.  Wifi is Wifi.  The products must conform to IEEE 802.11 standards.  You just need to know what standard the Appletalk can work with, such as a, b, or g.  So, the first thing to do is find out which standard is supported on the MAC, then purchase a router based on that.  Check out the product specs on the MAC, and they should tell you which to purchase.

Once this is done, connecting everything together will take you about 30 minutes.  You will hardwire the PC directly to the router, and configure it appropriately, including Security features (WEP, WPA, etc).  Then you will move to the MAC and configure the wifi connection.

FE
RouchieAuthor Commented:
And I presume the G5 will need, say, a USB transmitter/receiver unit (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=669) to connect to the PC's wireless router?
The above will obviously depend on the G5's compatibility with 11b/g.

As for software to get the G5 to recognise the PC and modem, is this usually packaged with the products or do I need to purchase this seperately?
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
No, everything you need should be on the MAC, built-in.  IF it has the Airport WIFI card installed.  Again, you will need to look at the product specs to be sure it is Wifi enabled.  That USB device is just an external NIC and antennae, and is not needed for your setup as long as your MAC comes with a wifi NIC, which I would assume it does, since it has Airport installed.  Make sure though, just in case.

No additional software is needed to connect, IF it comes with the wifi NIC (Airport).  Lots of users think that they need to install the proprietary software that comes with their external devices, such as routers.  This is usually a lot of bunk, and is completely unnecessary.  Everything you need is usually configurable on the systems themselves.  The only reason you need this extra software is for legacy systems that are not fully compatible out of the box.  Additionally, much of this software usually causes more problems than it corrects...  :)

FE

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ravipandeyCommented:
well everything that FE has mentioned is no doubt the best solution but I would like to suggest:not to purchase a Linksys router as you mentioned that you don`t know much about apples & the matter of fact is that though Linksys will work but if you anytime lookout for support over the phone they`d tell you that they do not support Mac`s so I don`t think that for the long run--Linksys will be a good buy

try this : http://www.belkin.com/apple/matrix/index.asp?dock=y&catid=12&mac=G5&cid=1&lid=1&pid=2
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
You are right about Linksys not giving support, ravi... it is pretty much well documented.  If Belkin supports it, you might find it a better choice.  I like the Netgear products too...  But again, Wifi is Wifi...  
RouchieAuthor Commented:
The reason I was looking at the LinkSys product is that it won an award in a UK PC magazine this month, however, your recommendations through experience matter more.

So taking the Belkin option as an example (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007DGWZC/qid=1120636300/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/202-8937299-4215840).  The specs seem to indicate that the unit attaches to my PC via an RJ45 Ethernet cable, which is no problem as I own a network card in my PC.  Should the Apple require internet access, does the PC need to be switched on to power the modem and provide throughput, or is the modem set up initially using the PC and then functions as a standalone device?

Also, newer ADSL Wireless routers act as print servers.  Is this something that the Apple could take advantage of as well?  I can only see Microsoft print-server software wording in the sales material.

Thanks for your help so far guys.
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
:)  No, the router is self powered.  It is an always on situation, unless you pull the plug.  Mine has been on continuously for 5 years now.

Again, printing is printing.  The technology does not change, although the setup might.  Everything in a network should conform to set protocols, usually following what we refer to as the OSI model.  Apple, MS, Unix, etc., all follow this model so they can all talk to each other.

FE
RouchieAuthor Commented:
If the modem is a standalone unit, then I presume the connection details for the internet account provider is set up on each machine?  The reason I ask is that I don't recall seeing anything about Apple Mac connections on my ISP's driver CD.

  -- just trying to mentally prepare myself before I delve into the world of wireless... :-)
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
Again, whenever I install any network, I refuse to use any 'install' disk from the ISP.  There are exceptions to every rule, but 99% of the time, networks can be configured without the junk that these ISPs give you.
RouchieAuthor Commented:
That's been a very interesting read overall.  Thank you for your time. :-)
Fatal_ExceptionSystems EngineerCommented:
No problem.  If you get yourself into trouble, just come back in and ask away!  

And thank you!

FE
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