Which is more secure?

Slackware or SUSE? And please explain why.
jslayton01Asked:
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
If you want security - and difficulty - try SE Linux.

http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/

Otherwise, it really depends on the packages you install and use and how up to date you keep it.
jslayton01Author Commented:
Ok, can I maybe have just a little simple answer between the two that I posted? I would appreciate it. Just between the two..
jonesy2kCommented:
I'll probably get show down in flames for this, but seeing how no-one else is answering, here goes...
Both SUSE and slackware keep up to date with patches.
It will really come down to how well it is configured/secured/updated by you.
I'd say that probably SUSE out of the box only for the reason that the installer sets up a firewall for you, and I'm not sure that slackware does.
SUSE is certainly easier to use and uses the 2.6 kernel where slackware uses 2.4 by default.
However, Slackware is very powerful and can be built into a very powerful, secure server. It just takes more knowledge.
Jonesy
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jonesy2kCommented:
btw, the SELinux that leew mentioned is not a distro, it's a package which can be installed on many distros.
jonesy
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
As I said:

Otherwise, it really depends on the packages you install and use and how up to date you keep it.
And I'll add to clarify - how well you know how to configure things.
sigel1Commented:
They are just as secure.  The programs installed are the same.  The differance in distros is special programs like for installing packages and some GUI's.  The location of the configuration files is also diff from the too.  The main programs are still going to be the same.  If you want support you can buy Suse.  I like slackware because it is easy to configure with no GUI.  SELinux can be installed on any linux distro.  If you are looking for security you might want to look at OpenBSD.
Any OS is only as secure as the file system it uses, all linux distros use the same kernel with some drivers added somtimes.
Suse probably has a better tracking system then slackware.  Slackware is more of a do-it-your-self OS.  If there is an update and it usually isn't included on the ftp yet, then you download it, build, and install.  The only problem with this is you need to keep track of 1000 programs every day.  Suse will keep track and tell you to update.  
Both distros have the same iptables firewall.

--I'm still a slackware fan, but if you got the $ and it is for a business support can be a good thing.  
jslayton01Author Commented:
Are you kidding??? OpenBSD is like a million times harder to install than any Linux distro....

The question really is, is Slackware really more secure than SUSE? If no, then how come most linux users use it? Does that mean its more secure?
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Who said most linux users use it?

I regularly attend linux user group meetings in my area.  The group has 50+ members who regular show up.  I RARELY hear anyone running Slackware.  Most are running Ubuntu, Debian, or Gentoo.  Most businesses run Red Hat and Suse.

Outside of this question, I rarely see people asking about slackware.
jslayton01Author Commented:
Just to confirm here, is SUSE more secure than Slackware? As a matter of fact, I think SElinux is installed as a package for SUSE by default. I dont know.

Now, heres the real question fo you guys. SUSE Linux is used on Mainframes right? Does it have the same security settings as the Personal version of SUSE? In other words, does it have the same security selections (Custom) as the one for the Mainframes?
CaseybeaCommented:
I'd vote for Suse, purely because it's more widely used.   There's strength in numbers of users, because that translates to more users reporting bugs- which get rapidly fixe3d as patches.     In the core, they're the same linux, same features.    Go with the majority.  

SUSE on a server is no different than 'personal' edition, except for the support contracts that are available behind it.

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jslayton01Author Commented:
Just one last question here.

The SUSE Linux thats on the Mainframe systems, is the desktop GUI the same as far as looks go? I know they run Linux as a Runlevel-3 mode. But if I were to switch to the GUI mode, is it the same thing as a desktop version?

So, SUSE and Slackware have the same Linux core? Because I heard that Slackware is more Linux-like than SUSE.
CaseybeaCommented:
More or less, same core.    "linux-like" probably means variations in the GUI.

GUI = Runlevel 5.
Text-only = Runlevel 3.      
jslayton01Author Commented:
Also, I just heard that SUSE is built on top of Slackware and Mandrake is built on top of Red Hat...
jslayton01Author Commented:
Suse was built on Slack in the late 90's like Mandrake was built on
Redhat.
jslayton01Author Commented:
But I do not beleive it. I should of asked for the source on where he got that info from....
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