VPN Problems

I have two XP pro computers I am trying to network.  The host is on dial up in a field office and the client is on DSL on the main network at the office.  I can connect to the host but I cannot see it in my network places.  How do I get it to show up so I can access the files on it?
themorrisgroupincAsked:
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wdunskiCommented:
My Network Places is managed by NETBios and unless you're broadcasting NETBios names you wont be able to see it. Try accessing the network resources by their internal IP address (ie 192.168.x.x).
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
Ok umm how do I do that.  in this case the internal IP is 192.168.2.130
wdunskiCommented:
When you connect - just open Internet Explorer and type in 192.168.2.130 and see if anything comes up
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adamdrayerCommented:
Does the client computer get issued an IP address on the same subnet as the host network?  or are you running two seperate subnets?

First thing is to make sure the computers are running NetBIOS over TCP/IP.  This option can be found in the network connection's properties.  Goto the properties of the TCP/IP protocol and click advanced.  You should see it on the WINS tab.

Each broadcast domain needs its own master browser and backup browser(s).  You'll need to run browstat.exe (located on the W2k/W2k3 Support Tools CD - or downloaded at microsoft.com) on both sides in order to find out what the master browser is.  If both sides are using the same master browser, then you should be fine as long as they are using NetBIOS over TCP/IP.  If they are not using the same Segment Master Browser, then you need to do wither emply WINS or LMHOSTS.

before we get into that, try what I've said first.  then come back and tell me if this is a domain or a workgroup environment.  Same workgroups or different ones?
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
not sure about the subnet thing--different locations   Client over DSL and Host on Dial-up
I know the client is running netBIOS over TCP/IP

workgroup environment
same workgroup
adamdrayerCommented:
If you are on different subnets, you need to have a domain in order to see the other subnets when browsing.

Telling whether you are on the same subnet can be difficult if you don't understand subnetting, but i would venture to say that you are on different subnets.  In order to be on the same one, the VPN host would have to create a virtual network adapter on the client with a new ip address and subnet mask that matches the hosts network.  This is usually supplied by DHCP on the VPN Host.

Since you are on different subnets and not using a domain, you will not be able to browse the other computers.

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themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
when I connect to the host computer I can see that it has been assigned the internal ip address of 192.168.2.130.  The rest of the computers on the client network are are ste statically so I would imagine that when the IP is assigned to the host the subnet would also be assigned. Am I mistaken?
adamdrayerCommented:
so your client is issued a 192.168.2.xxx IP address?  and the Host Network uses a 192.168.2.xxx addressing scheme?  if so, then you are on the same subnet.  install or download the Windows 2000 Support Tools.  You're looking for a program called browstat.exe

run browstat.exe status to get the master browser on the client PC.  is it itself?  or a computer on the network?
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
Well kind of.  The Host really does not have a network.  When I connect to the host from the client the client assigns the host an address of 192.168.2.xxx.  In the details of the connection it tells me the IP of the host and the client.  My client IP is different than the IP the client uses to connect to the LAN.  When connected both computers can ping each other.  
wdunskiCommented:
If you can ping eachother then you should be able to access the remote computer by its internal IP (192.168.x.x). If you CAN access it by internal IP then this is a NetBIOS / DNS problem.
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
I cannot access it by the inter IP.
wdunskiCommented:
Are there any shared folders on the computer that you are trying to access??
If no, then share a folder on the computer by right-clicking on the folder and choosing Sharing...
Once you do that, remember the share name that you specified. Once you shared a folder on the computer that you;re trying to access, connect to it via VPN and then go to Internet Explorer and
type in  \\192.168.x.x\name_of_the_shared_folder and see if you can access it.
adamdrayerCommented:
NetBIOS will not work acorss subnets without a domain.  it won't happen.  I'm trying to determine if they are on the same logical subnet. This means that the pieces of hardware involved in the VPN would have to be passing UDP broadcast traffic.  It has to be a layer3 broadcast domain.

are there any dsl or cable modems in the middle?  how is the vpn actually happening?  what software is being used?  when you say you can connect to the host, what exactly do you mean by that?
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
The client goes through a wireless router to a DSL modem across the Internet to the Dial-Up connection (Net Zero) of the host.
Both are using the Host/Client software in Windows XP pro service pack 2.  
When I say I am connect I mean I went to Network Connections clicked the connection to the host, entered my password and was verified and added to the remote network.
adamdrayerCommented:
ok, it's possible that it can't happen, but I'm not sure.  The clients can ping each other you say.  you said that one of them was 192.168.2.xxx

is the other one 192.168.2.xxx as well?  i didn't understand your answer to that.  

Do you by chance have the windows firewall enabled on both computers? You can find the settings in the Control Panel.  Windows Firewall and any other firewalls will most likely prevent NetBIOS.
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
Yes they are both 192.168.2.xxx.  Yes both computers have the windows firewall enabled but both have exceptions listed for the VPN connection
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
I have now found that the computers are on different subnets how do I fix that
adamdrayerCommented:
if they are on different subnets, you will need a domain.  It is impossible to browse across subnets without a domain. =(
adamdrayerCommented:
you can, however, still resolve names.  You just can't browse.  this means you can still refer to the other computer and share files, but you can't do it through network neighborhood.
themorrisgroupincAuthor Commented:
How do I do that?
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