Google problem - jumped from page 3 to page 8

We were on Google on page 3 about couple weeks ago and in one day just jumped on page 8.

One more thing - when I do search on www.aeispeakers.com it gives me plain link: aeispeakers.com/ linking to http://aeispeakers.com, and if I do search on www.aeispeakers.com/index.php it gives me everything that should be searched on www.aeispeakers.com ( I mean description).

Any suggestion how to get back on page 3?

P.S. I already submitted url on Google as http://www.aeispeakers.com, as I always did.

idiotsavant0207Asked:
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WadskiIT DirectorCommented:
I searched for aeispeakers and www.aeispeakers.com and you were top on both.

Can you explain what you are searching for?  ie 'Speakers'
duzCommented:
idiotsavant0207 -

At the moment you are confusing Google with four home pages:

http://aeispeakers.com/
http://aeispeakers.com/index.php
http://www.aeispeakers.com/
http://www.aeispeakers.com/index.php

Taking a look at your site my advice would be to do two things simultaneously.

301 the non-www with this in your .htaccess

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^aeispeakers\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.aeispeakers.com/$1 [R=301,L]

And replace all relative urls with 'index.php' in them with absolute urls like this

Existing <a href="../index.php" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

New <a href="http://www.aeispeakers.com" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

- duz
idiotsavant0207Author Commented:
Yes, but neither aeispeakers.com/ or www.aeispeakers.com/index.php does not have pages that link to www.aeispeakers.com.

We have about 56 pages linking to us on Google, and since Google cannot find them - I think this is a problem why we are on page 8.

Why would Google on search of www.aeispeakers.com give me aeispeakers.com/ and how to fix it?
Thanks.
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duzCommented:
idiotsavant0207 -

http://aeispeakers.com has a link to it from here http://www.yourspeakersguide.com/37/jose-roman-motivational-speaker.html

http://www.aeispeakers.com/index.php has all your site links pointing to it like this one <a href="../index.php" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

>We have about 56 pages linking to us on Google, and since Google cannot find them

Google has no trouble finding the links but it is understandably confused.

>Why would Google on search of www.aeispeakers.com give me aeispeakers.com/ and how to fix it?

Because it is confused and you fix it by following my advice above.

- duz

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idiotsavant0207Author Commented:
Thanks, I've done all changes from your advice, and Google crowled our website yestarday, but nothing changed.

Can you tell me why Google indexes http://www.aeispeakers.com/index.php instead of http://www.aeispeakers.com as it used to be???
duzCommented:
idiotsavant0207 -

>Google crowled our website yestarday, but nothing changed

That is to be expected. These kind of url changes on the site can take as long as months to work through.

>why Google indexes...

Probably because it is referenced in every link back to your home page on your site and there are a lot of them.

It still is because you have replaced this

<a href="../index.php" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

with this

<a href="http://www.aeispeakers.com/index.php" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

The index.php should not be there and it should actually look like this

<a href="http://www.aeispeakers.com/" title="AEI Speakers Bureau Home Page"><font size="2">HOME</font></a>

(I made a typo and left out the trailing slash after .com in my previous post but it is required).

- duz
idiotsavant0207Author Commented:
Thanks a lot. It worked. We are back to page 3.

I am just curious what is 101k in Google search:

AEI Speakers Bureau - Motivational Speakers Bureau providing ...
Speakers bureau for corporate, college and civic events.
www.aeispeakers.com/ - 101k - Jul 9, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages ?
duzCommented:
idiotsavant0207 -

File size.

- duz


idiotsavant0207Author Commented:
Hi,
last week on Google search for www.aeispeakers.com is section:
"Find web pages that link to www.aeispeakers.com" it linked to
link:www.aeispeakers.com showing 56 links, now it says:
Your search - link:naGugRjUCQMJ:aeispeakers.com/ - did not match any documents.

Could you please tell me what is going on and how to fix this problem.
Thanks
duzCommented:
idiotsavant0207 -

>Could you please tell me what is going on and how to fix this problem.

Google is just working through the changes you have made and as I said above they "can take as long as months to work through".

There is no problem to fix, just be patient as Google works it out and whatever you do don't change a thing while Google is thinking.

- duz
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