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HP Laserjet 5000 garbage pages from Mac
I've been fighting this one for a while, hopefully someone will shed some light.

We recently set up two HP Laserjet 5000s on a Windows 2K3 server printing through IP/RAW Port 9100. We're using the HP Laserjet 5000 Postscript driver. We're a mixed OS environment, so we're using WinXP, Mac OS 10.2 - 10.4, OS9.1 and 9.2. We're using the postscript driver because if we use the PCL drivers, OSX can't print to the printers from Acrobat without getting errors.

So anyway, almost everything works okay from all OSes, but when some of the OSX/OS9 machines print graphics from QuarkXpress 4.11, they get 20-30 pages with garbled text at the top of the sheet. This doesn't happen all of the time. Some graphics will print okay, others will get the garbage. I assume the difference is binary/ascii graphics...

The macs are using the HP Laserjet 5000 Series printer description, although they sometimes use a Laserwriter 810 ppd that used to work. There seems to be no difference in the performance with these two ppds. I have also tried switching from Binary to ASCII in the Quark output screen, but there's no difference there either. I've also tried setting up the W2K3 printer queues various different ways (straight IP, LPR, binps, etc) and nothing seems to get rid of the garbles characters.

Any ideas?

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It could be a spool timing issue, it may just be that the job is taking too long to transfer, and the printer is timing out.
try this:
On the printer, in the I/O menu, set buffer to on, set size to maximum available, increase timeout value to 30 seconds (or higher)
On the server, make sure that spooling is set to "start printing after the last page has spooled"

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No Luck.

Still the same result. We've had some big print jobs that go successfully, and some smaller ones that don't. I don't think it's a size issue...

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It`s not size, but complexity. Complex graphics take longer to process (especially in postscript), and the printer times out while waiting for them to spool.
(in fact sometimes a postscript job is rendered as PCL because of header timeouts, maybe you can lock the printers to Postscript)

We have had exactly the same issue with Macs and Ricoh colour printers, and those settings cured it.
However, passing it through the W2K server may be adding to your problems, these were connected directly across the network.
Do these printers have network cards in?

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Yes. We could print directly to the IP address of the printer, but my boss wants to have a central print queue.

I don't think its a timeout issue, unless it's timing out in a couple of seconds. The job gets to the printer fairly quickly, it just prints a bunch of gibberish instead of the actual graphics. From everything I can see on the HP and apple websites (and a previous EE post), it has something to do with binary graphics. But none of the solutions I've found have worked for me...

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You could see if there is an option in the printer setup for binary or ascii postscript encoding

thanks for the help, wyliecoyote, but I still can't seem to get it right. There are binary/ASCII options on the printer setup on the server and in quark, but switching them doesn't seem to help, nor do the buffer settings. I'm not sure how to proceed on this one...

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Turns out on these particular documents will print garbage if it goes through TCP/IP at all, even direct from the machine. So I just got the Appletalk Queue name from the config page of the printer and set up an appletalk port on the W2K3 server, and voila! Everything's fine.

The only thing that worries me is that the appletalk queue name might be coming from our Ethershare Admin server instead of the printer itself. I'm not sure if when I turn the old server off the queue names might poof out of existence. I guess we'll see when I pull the plug. I would assume if the queue name is coming from the printer config page that it should be set there...

Anyway, I think there was some kind of an issue with the graphics because it was only certain things that gave the garbled characters, but printing via appletalk seems to be an acceptable workaround.

Thanks for the help!

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np:) glad you solved it.
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