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Copy logo I created from Illustrator to InDesign or Photoshop CS2
Hello,
Clearly I need to take a class or deleve more deeply into my manuals. That being said and in a time crunch, is it possible to copy a logo i have created in Illustrator CS2 to InDesign or Photoshop for use? Seems simple enough but I cannot find the answer in text and have tried all I an think of.
Thanks so much!
Doreen
Clearly I need to take a class or deleve more deeply into my manuals. That being said and in a time crunch, is it possible to copy a logo i have created in Illustrator CS2 to InDesign or Photoshop for use? Seems simple enough but I cannot find the answer in text and have tried all I an think of.
Thanks so much!
Doreen
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So if I save the file as EPS. rather than AI. I know more info would help, but alas I am not clued in enough to know how to articulate the program. I will try a few things based on your sugggestions.
Doreen
Doreen
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Will try this too and of course, award points accordingly! :)
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i have say tif if he swant to give it to print in exterior, tif 300dpi it's correct, if he gonna print it at home, so ok he can leave it as vector
The point of vector art is that you can scale it and output it at any size you want without degredation of quality. You just cannot do the same with bitmap art such as a tif. For instance, if you have a 1" by 1" logo created in vector art, you can scale it 1000% (with a few caveats about how you do it) and it should look fine. If you convert that logo to bitmap 300dpi and then scale it up 1000% it is going to look like crap.
Printing should have nothing to do with it. You should be able to print vector art out with better results than you would ever get from converting it to bitmap.
BongSoo
Printing should have nothing to do with it. You should be able to print vector art out with better results than you would ever get from converting it to bitmap.
BongSoo
sure ^^
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All of this pretty much makes sense. However I saved to SVG and when I attempt to open in InDesign I get cannot open....file format missing or file may be open in another program (NOT) If more points are warrented due to my ignorance, let me know.
Doreen
Doreen
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Okay, In InDesign I chose File->Place-> and then selected the SVG file. it placed the logo in my document. It looks pixeled but prints perfect. Still tweaking around and will still look for options from anyone. Does what i did make sense?
Doreen
Doreen
Doreen,
Check your preview preference in Indesign. You might not have it on hi-res, which will often result in a less than satisfactory preview but will print fine. Regardless, its not about the points, and should never be. It should be about finding the best and correct answer.
s0ul, maybe I have misunderstood what you were trying to say? It would be nice if you could elaborate on the issue if you disagree, or communicate a little more clearly if you do. I certainly would be interested in hearing you explain convincingly how it is better to convert it to a bitmap than to leave it as vector.
BongSoo
Check your preview preference in Indesign. You might not have it on hi-res, which will often result in a less than satisfactory preview but will print fine. Regardless, its not about the points, and should never be. It should be about finding the best and correct answer.
s0ul, maybe I have misunderstood what you were trying to say? It would be nice if you could elaborate on the issue if you disagree, or communicate a little more clearly if you do. I certainly would be interested in hearing you explain convincingly how it is better to convert it to a bitmap than to leave it as vector.
BongSoo
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Hi,
i looked into one of my books under Importing and sure enough the <Place> solution I "stumbled upon" was the answer. I have so much to learn but feel better already. I'll split points in what I hope is fair. Bongsoo was most on target while sOul made me think about the process which was also helpful.
i looked into one of my books under Importing and sure enough the <Place> solution I "stumbled upon" was the answer. I have so much to learn but feel better already. I'll split points in what I hope is fair. Bongsoo was most on target while sOul made me think about the process which was also helpful.
hi again and thanks for point,
so... sorry for my bad english,
i gonna try to explain better,
ok, so... the tiff format is good when u works with photoshop, illustrator and xpress, when you want to print your works (ina good quality), you send it to a printer (a man who gonna print your work with great laser-printers), for d that you must creat a folder for all your pics and fonts and give it with your works, so if you wanna give a indesign or psd file to the print-man u must pixelat your layers in photoshop or creat again a folder for pics and fonts, but you have big chances that the folrders have an error on the print-man's OS (coz they works on the macOS and not on windows, macOS is better for the pao), it's for what i have say that is better to export the vector to tif (300dpi) and pixelat all in photoshop, i hope that u gonna understand what i wanna say :)
see ya
so... sorry for my bad english,
i gonna try to explain better,
ok, so... the tiff format is good when u works with photoshop, illustrator and xpress, when you want to print your works (ina good quality), you send it to a printer (a man who gonna print your work with great laser-printers), for d that you must creat a folder for all your pics and fonts and give it with your works, so if you wanna give a indesign or psd file to the print-man u must pixelat your layers in photoshop or creat again a folder for pics and fonts, but you have big chances that the folrders have an error on the print-man's OS (coz they works on the macOS and not on windows, macOS is better for the pao), it's for what i have say that is better to export the vector to tif (300dpi) and pixelat all in photoshop, i hope that u gonna understand what i wanna say :)
see ya
ok, now I understand a little better.
First off, for now (until I can land a new job), I AM the printer doing your work with great-laser printers, or at least in my case, outputting customer supplied files to CTP (computer to plate) for a large commercial printing company. I have worked in this industry for over 12 years (more if you consider smaller shops), so I do have some tenure to back up what I believe to be true, and I am reasonably certain that the industry agrees with this perspective.
First, it is important to understand the different software tools, and what they are intended for. (No matter what I say after this, please understand that I acknowledge that there are ALWAYS exceptions to any rules...) Here are some 'blanket statements':
Photoshop (I know of no other software that compares) is intended for Bitmap image manipulation. Usually this means photographic or Continuous Tone images, but not necessarily. Most of the time you don't use it for line art that can be created using a vector art software package.
Illustrator/Freehand/Corel
Quark/InDesign/Pagmaker are for Page Layout. This means being able to combine both of the above along with type content and creating 'final documents' that include all of those elements.
Sometimes you can get away with using software for other purposes (ie, using Illustrator for doing page layout), but generally, its considered good practice to use the software in the manner it was intended, and not to mix and match. So, manipulate your bitmap images in Photoshop, your vector images in Illustrator, and place them in InDesign. (Thats why Adobe Creative Suite has these three, of course).
We could also talk about image formats (TIFF, EPS, JPEG, Postscript, PDF, etc., but lets try to leave that for another time)...
Vector art and Bitmap art are two different types of art, created in two very different ways, and both have there different strengths and weaknesses. However, it is important to understand that trying to convert from one to the other is usually not worth the effort. Why? Because both are suited to different tasks.
What I THINK you were trying to say that it is important to make sure that you send all of the files necessary to your printer so that they can output your files properly. This, I agree with. It also sounds like you have had issues with your printer due to their utilizing the Mac OS. I am not sure why this is, but any competent printer these days will have both Mac and PC computers, and a file server that is compatible with both. There should not be any issues arising because of this- if there are, I would find another printer.
Regardless, you really shouldn't need to rasterize the tif, although ulimately that will occur, but usually at a much higher resolution (we use both 2400 and 2540 RIPs) which won't show the degredation of quality you will get at 300 dpi, which would be readily visible.
I hope that helps, but please feel free to ask more questions.
BongSoo
First off, for now (until I can land a new job), I AM the printer doing your work with great-laser printers, or at least in my case, outputting customer supplied files to CTP (computer to plate) for a large commercial printing company. I have worked in this industry for over 12 years (more if you consider smaller shops), so I do have some tenure to back up what I believe to be true, and I am reasonably certain that the industry agrees with this perspective.
First, it is important to understand the different software tools, and what they are intended for. (No matter what I say after this, please understand that I acknowledge that there are ALWAYS exceptions to any rules...) Here are some 'blanket statements':
Photoshop (I know of no other software that compares) is intended for Bitmap image manipulation. Usually this means photographic or Continuous Tone images, but not necessarily. Most of the time you don't use it for line art that can be created using a vector art software package.
Illustrator/Freehand/Corel
Quark/InDesign/Pagmaker are for Page Layout. This means being able to combine both of the above along with type content and creating 'final documents' that include all of those elements.
Sometimes you can get away with using software for other purposes (ie, using Illustrator for doing page layout), but generally, its considered good practice to use the software in the manner it was intended, and not to mix and match. So, manipulate your bitmap images in Photoshop, your vector images in Illustrator, and place them in InDesign. (Thats why Adobe Creative Suite has these three, of course).
We could also talk about image formats (TIFF, EPS, JPEG, Postscript, PDF, etc., but lets try to leave that for another time)...
Vector art and Bitmap art are two different types of art, created in two very different ways, and both have there different strengths and weaknesses. However, it is important to understand that trying to convert from one to the other is usually not worth the effort. Why? Because both are suited to different tasks.
What I THINK you were trying to say that it is important to make sure that you send all of the files necessary to your printer so that they can output your files properly. This, I agree with. It also sounds like you have had issues with your printer due to their utilizing the Mac OS. I am not sure why this is, but any competent printer these days will have both Mac and PC computers, and a file server that is compatible with both. There should not be any issues arising because of this- if there are, I would find another printer.
Regardless, you really shouldn't need to rasterize the tif, although ulimately that will occur, but usually at a much higher resolution (we use both 2400 and 2540 RIPs) which won't show the degredation of quality you will get at 300 dpi, which would be readily visible.
I hope that helps, but please feel free to ask more questions.
BongSoo
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Hello! I loved reading your post and this part especailly < (Thats why Adobe Creative Suite has these three, of course).> Yesterday I was wondering if I had misunderstood the product. I wanted to use it precisely this way. Using the three (+) programs to create the collateral materials for our business. I have some classes scheduled which will clealy aid the curve. :)
Thank you again! Doreen
Thank you again! Doreen
I am glad I could help and thanks for the points!
BongSoo
BongSoo
Both InDesign & Photoshop allow you to place files into their layouts, so you could easily place an illustrator eps into either. I am not sure that I would recommend a copy/paste scenario where you copy the file to the pasteboard and paste it, although this might work.
More info from you about the file and what you are trying to accomplish will help garner a more detailed answer...
BongSoo