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Imbedding pictures in InDesign

Good day,

I am creating a booklet in InDesign and have “placed” two .jpeg photos into the document.  When I check the preflight or package, I get the yellow exclamation icon saying that two images are “linked” and use RGB color space.  I have a .tiff that is fine.  I plan to put this document on a disk for a printer. I have tried to embed the pictures from the Links Palette to no avail.  Do these need to be “embedded” to go to print?  They print out fine here at my desk.  

Thank you for any wisdom.

Doreen
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Hi Doreen,

For any photo to print properly, it will be be printed with a 4-color process.  That means that 4 screens will be made, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black (CMYK).  

InDesign refuses to make the adjustment for you, so you need to use another image editing software, re-open the photo, make a copy of the original (so you don't lose the original) then use whichever tool is available to change the color mode to CMYK. Then, save it again as CMYK.  (Please note that for your photo to print and look professional, it needs to have a resolution of 300 dpi(dots per inch or higher).

That  you are getting the yellow triangle and that the photos are linked is a bit odd. So, what I would do is:
Once you've done the color change on your pics, go to the links palette in InDesign, click on o of your old pics, and a dialogue palette will come up, just re-link it to the address in your system of where you saved your new CMYK photo.

Then I would totally delete your original folder, as saving again into the same folder can be confusing!

By the way, make certain that you make a copy of your text, hide one copy on a separate layer.  On the layer showing, make the text into outlines.

Now, you're ready to make a folder!

Best of Luck!
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You answer is great and I will award points.  I will add more if you can answer this....I opened the pictures in Photoshop CS2 and they display as CMYK on teh color palette, however I am still getting the report that the images "TYPE" are JPEG-RGB "STATUS" Linked.  Did I miss a piece of the puzzle?

Thanks so very much,

Doreen
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Doreen,

From the Independant JPEG Standard for JFIF:
Standard color space
The color space to be used is YCbCr as defined by CCIR 601 (256 levels). The RGB components calculated by linear conversion from YCbCr shall not be gamma corrected (gamma = 1.0). If only one component is used, that component shall be Y.

A definition of YCbCr is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCbCr

In other words, the JFIF standards supporting only three color channels (CMYK is four color channels). Some software will convert a RGB JPG to a pseudo-CMYK, but you would be better off using TIFF images for anything that has to be in CMYK.

Cheers,
LHerrou
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Hi there!

Not only have you answered my quesitons and resolved my issues, you did so in such a clear, pleasant and easy manner.  I didn't feel like an idiot.  :)

I'll accept answer and add some points!!!  I hope you are around next time I run into an obstacle!  (I am going to be taking some classes in InDesign and the rest of the Suite!)

Kind regards,

Doreen
I added points  under "Points for missrika" question.

Same for lherrou.  Thank you as well.

Doreen
Sorry about being technical. I was trying to point out that jpg does not officially belong in the CYMK color space, and TIFF images are better suited for print purposes. This is true both for color reasons, and also because of the distortion of the image in JPG compression - they may look good on screen but not in print, and every time you open a JPG and then re-save, you are introducing more distortion. Go with TIFF if you can, even if the original is a JPG, if you have to resave it, save it as a TIFF so you don't re-compress it.
YIKES!

I did not know that!  I have been a member for a LONG time.  Did you get the points?  

I'll go reveiw the rules!!!
So in a case like this where I felt missrika fully earned the 500 points, and then, you offered help, should I have not given missrika all 500?  I really felt that they were eanred and also, that lherrou was informative.  What are the options-recommendations in this situation. Also, I did not know about the limit....it says, don't be "cheap" right there when you assign points.  

Thanks again,

Doreen
well, I do thank you for thanking with the points, even though they were not supposed to be actual points... and I'm glad that you can now complete your work.  

I learned something about saving a file from lherrou about Tif and Jpg, and will use the lesson myself in the future.