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Roaming profiles / redirect windows start up folder

we are using roaming profiles.  in the user information we set the profile path as \\server\profiles\%username%

ion the folder redirection GPO, we set the application data, etc. with a base folder of \\server\profiles.  

Why does the start menue look weird?  There's now a folder at the top called steve (the username) and then youhave ot go in there to see the redirected folders and shortcuts.

Any idea how to set up redirect of the start menu to keep the start menu the same as when it was not redirected?  or is roaming profile good enough to get the start menu on the server for backing up?

neither way captures the all users folders, right?!

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Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasyPrincipal ConsultantCommented:
Where did you set up the profile path?  Did you modify the USER TEMPLATE?  Otherwise, the add-user wizard will attempt to create the home directory for each user in the \\server\users share.

I generally don't recommend using roaming profiles on SBS.  Since if you enable My Documents folder redirection (wizard is in the User pane of the server management console) their documents will be wherever they log in.  SBS automatically configures the appropriate Outlook profile for a user when they log into a workstation, so no need to have that travel either.  So all that's left really is desktop and favorites.  You can redirect their favorites to the \\users share, but I always recommend NOT redirecting the desktop since it's really a lousy place to store stuff! (In my opinion).

However, if you really want to use roaming profiles http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2005/10/17/71401.aspx

Jeff
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LookingForITHelpAuthor Commented:
Interesting!  You don't like roaming profiles?!  Not redirecting the desktop?  You may think it's a lousy place to store things.. but how many users feel that way / don't understand the difference between a shortcut on the desktop and the file itself on the desktop?  And saving things, desktop is the easiest place to save the file...  

And the application data folder.... there' apps (like AOL) that store needed things in there that if the machine was trashed, the user would be out of luck.  Yeah, you can get into the debate of not allowing AOL, etc.  but a) with the small businesses I deal with, they don't want to be bossed around / change the way they do things b) and OK, forget AOL... there's other apps that store needed data in app data?
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Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasyPrincipal ConsultantCommented:
You're right about all of that.  Which is why I provided the link as a reference.  Personally, I don't like them and believe that it's more maintenance than it's worth.  Most small businesses that I deal with don't really have the need to use multiple machines... so the roaming profile issue would be moot.  In larger organizations that use Terminal Server for remote access, roaming profiles are nice because then a user get's their own desktop when they log in remotely. With SBS, they use RWW which really gives them their own desktop.

Saving files to the desktop will actually slow down a computer... since everything on the desktop is "active".  So I teach end users to keep their computer desktop as clear as their actual desk.  (For some users this means that their computer desktop is piled high with stuff!).

As for small businesses not wanting to be bossed around... I believe that it's up to me as the technology expert to advise them how much time is wasted or can be saved depending on the practices they adopt.  Additionally, I teach business owners to teach their staff members that their computers are business tools, not personal toys... and unlike their home computers, adding things like AIM can actually cause problems on the entire network, not just their machine.  So, just calculate wasting 10 minutes a day per person... A worker whose salary is $25,000.00 will cost a company over $600.00 anually by wasting 10 minutes a day -- but there are studies that show that a worker who uses Instant Messaging with FRIENDS will waste upwards of 40 minutes a day (or $2,400.00 per year!) -- but a worker that uses Instant Messaging with co-workers can actually increase their productivity instead.

So if there are four people in the office that use AIM to chat with friends, that could cost the company about $10,000.00 per year in lost productivity.  This does NOT include the cost of IT consultant time to address problems that AIM causes, nor does it include any lost sales opportunities because the workers were not available.

(Reference: http://www.clickz.com/stats/sectors/professional/article.php/3081031)

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