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Need source for replacement power brick

This is for a TFT flat panel monitor (15 inch Hyundai, a couple years old).

Original power adapter is:

C&C Tech Co., Ltd. Model CE92HM

Note a universal adapter won't work as this thing has dual voltage output, and some sort of mini-DIN connector (not a regular barrel type) so it has to be this model.

I know there are currently a couple of them listed on eBay, however they are a bit on the pricey side, plus you need to figure minimum of $16.00 freight to get it to the U.S (they are UK listings).

Need a source to purchase one of these (preferably new), in the US, for less than the $100 or so these items are closing for on eBay.

Looking for a place to actually buy them. Someone or some company in the US who has them on-hand and ready for purchase. I am not looking for links to eBay, Pricewatch, Pricegrabber, Froogle, etc.
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jhanceCommented:
I don't blame you for not wanting to spend upwards of $100 for one of these.  You can get an entire LCD display of the 15" variety for not much more than that.

These types of power adapters are somewhat standard.  Do you have any tech specs beyond that you've posted?  It may be possible to locate another source like an electronics surplus vendor.
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nltechAuthor Commented:
I dont have the (dead) part here anymore, it was returned the client awhile back. What I posted in the Q is what I know as far as specifics (Mfg, model #, 2 output voltages, the connector). They don't "need" the monitor, they have an extra (or rather, they have a dead PC or two and monitors left over). They do have several others just like this, their other option is just to hang on to this screen in case one of the others like it dies. But it'd be nice to try to snag one of these parts if one can be found at a reasonable price (partly because they have a half-dozen of these monitors).
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garycaseCommented:
I'm trying to get the exact pinout for that adapter, and will post back when I do.  Do you have the specifications for the connection on the monitor?   The same adapter works with a Packard Bell S527 display, but so far I've not found a source for that adapter either.

Do you have the failed adapter available (and thus the appropriate connector)?  (or is missing rather than failed?)   I've found a source that will make a custom adapter with the specified outputs for a modest price (less than $50).   It would be useful if you posted the exact model number of the monitor.

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garycaseCommented:
... saw your post as mine posted => obviously you no longer have either the part or the detailed model #.   I think the best bet here is to get the exact pinout of the connector & post it ==> are you willing/able to do a bit of soldering and simply make your own custom adapter?   (you could do this for a very modest cost)
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nltechAuthor Commented:
monitor model name, i believe is: ImageQuest Q15

i only wrote down the manufacturer and part number of the power brick before returning it to the client (a non profit).  the two output voltages confirmed via this ebay wantitnow posting http://tinyurl.com/osobd (but it doesn't list the pinouts)

yes, i have read places where it mentions some packard bells using the same adapter. doesn't do much in the states, as they (packard bell) left this market quite some time ago.

i believe the original DIN plug is intact. i am not sure what the client's take on a pieced/soldered together adapter would be. they may not want something like that for insurance purposes; but i will ask.  i don't do much soldering these days, usually let someone else deal with that. i'm more of a twist'er together and tape the hell out of it kind a guy. :)

here's a little better picture: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9118/ce92hm0bh.jpg
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garycaseCommented:
ImageQuest Q15 is indeed a good model #, and uses +12v @ 2A and +5v @ 2A according to the specifications ==> so I'd say that's it.

If you have some old power "bricks" with the right voltages (and current capacity), you could wire up a DIN plug to provide the right power.   The pinout is clearly shown on the picture you have -- and you also have the advantage of some working ones to measure and confirm you have the right polarity :-)

Depending on the space available, you could even mount an inexpensive computer PSU in a small hobby box and get the power from it.   The key is you know the voltages;  you know the pinouts;  and you even have the proper connector :-)   If this was my monitor that's what I'd do (unless I decided to use it as an excuse to buy another 19" LCD).
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nltechAuthor Commented:
i am a little hesitant to suggest that they rig up a power adapter like that, as this monitor would see service on a public-use terminal. the power brick would be sitting either on a desk behind the monitor or on the floor.

the only other power bricks like this are in use at the moment.  anything like this that i use myself has a barrel connector, or in the case of a couple tft displays, the transformer is built-in and it uses a standard pc power cord.

we might be interested in the outfit you found that can custom-build one. but at this time, i think the client preference would be to find the real thing.
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garycaseCommented:
Given the use you noted, I would agree you should try to find the real thing.  I'll look around a bit more :-)

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thoffmanCommented:
I think you could modify an existing power brick and keep it safe. First, get a brick with the same voltage ratings as the dead brick. Then, do one of two things.

1) Get a new Din connector that will allow you to cleanly connect the wires to the connector. This assumes that the Din on the power supply is actually a standard connector. It appears to be the PS/2 type of 6-pin mini Din, but I can't tell for certain by the picture. If you have access to the old brick, see if it fits in a PS/2 port or PS/2 extension cable (unplugged, of course).

2) Crack open the dead power brick. Desolder the wires going into the circuit board to remove the Din connector and cable set. Then, crack open the new brick, remove the new brick's cable, and replace it with the old brick's cable, soldering directly into the board the way the original cable was connected. Put the brick back together, and you have a clean, safe, converted power supply.

As far as the power brick is concerned, I have a USB 2.0 IDE adapter that has a power brick that happens to be 12v 2a/5v 2a. The connector is an IDE power supply connector, so it would take some converting. The IDE adapter was cheap (< $20), and the part number is USB-2535 and is made by Sabrent. Googling the part number should turn up some suppliers if you wanted to go this route.

I also found this:

http://www.addonics.com/products/power_adapter/12v_adapter.asp which looks like it might actually work as-is, though I can't tell if the pin outs are correct. The amps are slightly lower (1.5a), but should be close enough. As of right now, it appears to be in stock.

The disadvantage of both of these bricks is that they're both black. If you have to solder, it will look kind of funny to have a white cable sticking out of it. You might want to find a white brick with the same specs if you have to replace the cable.

--
Troy

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garycaseCommented:
I had the same thought this afternoon -- external USB cases almost all have power bricks that supply both 5v and 12v.   Just looked at my Penguin -- it provides 5v @ 1.5a and 12v @1.8a => slightly below the rating of your brick, but quite possibly within the actual draw of the monitor.   Other adapters (as noted above) are likely to be rated at 2A/2A.   So it's relatively easy to get the right voltages/currents inexpensively if you're willing to be a bit creative at the cabling.   My enclosure was only $28 or so -- and others are similarly priced.
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nltechAuthor Commented:
thanks for the suggestions about building your own, however.. it's looking like we're going to need the "real deal" here. so, we're back to square one. need a source for a replacement unit. new, used, refurb, whatever's available (in the us, preferred).
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garycaseCommented:
I've look a good bit, but the only new ones I can find for sale are on the UK ebay site -- which you indicated you've already seen.   They're going for about $60, plus $15 to ship to the US.

... however, I suspect that these are 230v units ==> just for grins I e-mailed the seller to confirm that;  I'll let you know if that's correct.

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garycaseCommented:
One way to get the power adapter is just buy another monitor ==>  you could even ask the seller to just ship you the power adapter (although his shipping cost is very modest for the whole thing)

http://cgi.ebay.com/HYUNDAI-ImageQuest-ImageQuest-Q15-15-1-LCD-Monitor_W0QQitemZ8788172305QQcategoryZ3698QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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garycaseCommented:
... I know you didn't want e-bay links, etc. => but it's not at all clear this adapter is going to be available otherwise.
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garycaseCommented:
I was wrong about the adapter on e-bay:  it's a universal 110-240v unit, so it would work fine.
But it IS pricey -- I'd just buy another monitor !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8790265286&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1
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nltechAuthor Commented:
hey gary, that monitor you posted. did you notice that it's a black monitor but has a white power adapter? hmmm... wonder where he got _his_ replacement brick?

the current ebay listing is uk/europe only. doesn't even show up on a search for me, i have to enter the url directly or not be signed in to see it (i guess once i am signed in, ebay knows that it can't be shipped to me).  it happens to be the high bidder from the first listing i saw, originally sold for (what would have been, with us shipping) about 105 usd.. seems he didnt need it after all.

you know, they're even harder to replace than this goofy thing, but i still prefer tft monitors with the transformer inside the unit, that use a standard pc power cord... one less thing laying around, and no wierd cables. and at least when it dies, you know which part to toss. :)

i'm still looking... running out of resources, but still looking.  
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garycaseCommented:
Yes, I did notice it was black with a white power adapter -- and had the same thought you did :-)
On the other hand, white is what you need ==> and at the current price you'll probably not find the brick for less than the monitor with the brick !!   My initial thought was if you won to just have the brick shipped -- but the shipping (at least to my zip) is < $10, so you may as well get the whole thing.   Of course, then you'd have another monitor with no brick !! :-)  :-)

On the other hand, it's reasonably likely that the one for sale DOES have a "replacement" brick (since the colors don't match) ==> perhaps you could send him an e-mail and ask where he got the brick.
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nltechAuthor Commented:
actually black is what i need, but at this point i could care less if it was purple polkadots.  the whit e picture is one i just "borrowed" from somewhere.

the only thing that bothers me about that listing is that it's from an ebay rookie who doesn't know enough to put return policies and what-not in the listing; or even perhaps explain why the monitor and adapter are mismatched.

i will pass the listing information on, though. but this is a case where i will stay out of it and let them decide what to do and make the purchase if they want...
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garycaseCommented:
You're right about the sparse info on the listing.   ... do note that it expires in 12 hours :-)
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nltechAuthor Commented:
garycase -- in the third comment you mentioned a source that can build a power adapter to any specifications? what is that source? and have you any experience with their work?
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nltechAuthor Commented:
**finally** found the 'official' source of these power supplies in the usa:

CE92HM POWER SUPPLY                 $45.00
SHIPPING AND HANDLING                $15.00
TOTAL                                          $60.00        

For our records, please send us the following information via fax or E-mail: Your name, shipping address, phone number, the model of the monitor, and the part you wish to order.

After that, you may send the cashier's check/ money order to the address given below (Hyundai Imagequest America c/o of AVC Tech, Inc...), and please have it payable to AVC Tech. After we receive the check, we will ship the item to you.

*You also have the option of COD, with an additional charge of $ 8.50.

If you have further questions, give us a call.

HYUNDAI IMAGEQUEST AMERICA.
777 MARK ST.
WOOD DALE,IL 60191
eMail: customerservice@hyundaimonitor.com
(VOICE)800-568-0060 or 630-595-0123
(FAX)    800-847-9422 or 630-595-2345
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